If you want an Olympics medal, change your name to Paul Hamm

You don't need to be Paul Hamm to win a medal. You are already, clearly, a first class idiot who knows nothing about the history of gymnastics, it's rules and judging system, or even proper English.

"it's rules and judging system, or even proper English"

Uh, right. Whatever you say.

Alexei Nemov impressed the entire stadium, where people representing all nations showed their disgust with the judges. The judges are scewed by biases, politics and surely by favortism. What happend is a damn shame. For those viewing from home (USA), we believe he was robbed of a medal.
Someone should fix this....

Simon says "Give Alexei Nemov 9.725."
okay
Siman says "Up Alexei Nemov's score to a 9.762"
okay
"Now give Alexei Nemov a medal"

no, no, no I didn't say Siman says.

The question is "Who the fuck is Simon?"

Well, The good news is that P..olish Ham m will never see (I hope) another medal in his life. Being an A..Hole actually qualifies him for a medal.(this one) As for the guy in here who knows so mutch about gymnastics, ..... if you looking for idiots, why not just look in the mirror?

First the all-around fiasco. Now what happened at the horizontal bar.

There´s no more doubt about it. It was fixed.

And Hamm´s attitude about the mess only makes you wonder if he was into it as well, not just the big honchos above him.

Alessandra

Nemov showed true class and grace through it all. He is a champion. I do think he should have gotten the gold. Cassina should have gotten the silver, and then... well, I'm honestly not sure. I do think Nemov and the Russian gymnastic committee should challenge his score. I think that gymnastics judging needs to be looked at again. And I think the garbage that there should be no ties should be thrown out-- because as has been said many times, this sport is subjective. When we're talking thousandths of a point, how truly better is one person than another?

I do not think Hamm is to blame for what's going on here-- I feel sorry for the guy. He was in a lousy situation that night having to wait as the judges (who, not Hamm, mucked things up for Nemov... both in their initial and revised score). I do think Hamm was overscored for his performance. Even the American broadcasters commented that they didn't know what the heck the judges were doing-- both on the high bar AND parallel bar performances -- with the scoring.

I feel sorry for Hamm because he's getting so much negativity over this. He did make an amazing comeback during the all around-- yet folks demonize him because of what the judges marked him (and because he was an American... I do think that has as much, if not more, to play in this than anything).

"He looked dazed when he saw his score of 9.137, which dropped him 12th place."

Can anyone who knows anything about gymnastics scoring tell me the following. (I may be a gymnastics idiot but I still know how to add and subtract, so if you guys can help me plug in the numbers then maybe I'll get a clearer picture. thanks):
1)Was Paul Hamm's starting value for the event where he fell a 9.9?
2)What is the maximium loss for stepping out of the line, and falling down; then what is the discrepancy between what the judges deducted for stepping out of the line and falling down versus his score (I'm trying to discern after subtracting appropriate amount from his fall, did the judges also take enough points off for other erros, or were the assuming that other parts of his routine were close to flawlessly executed?
3)Somebody told me that in any olympic event prior to this one, any player who fell down out of the line in a similar manner Hamm did never got above a 8.7. Is that true? If it is how did the judges score Paul Hamm's horrendous event?
4)Also somebody was telling me that since a judge had to hold Paul up (otherwise, who knows where he could have ended up), Paul should actually have been disqualified? Is there any validity in that?

5)Why was Hamm's score higher than Alexi's last night? What made it harder and better?
6) Why was that guy who went last night (Cassina?)and did some crazy jumping jacks in the high bar routine get the same score as Hamm to the hundreds of thousanths of a pt (both received i think 9.812)
7) Is Khorkina another victim to biased judgin. Or did Patterson really win her all around medal?
8) why do Patterson and Hamm both have just a distasteful, classeless, stuck-up attitude. Patterson responded to Khokina's angry comments with "I don't care. I thinks she's just a sore loser." Hamm, well you guys all know by now what he's been saying. I am an American, but I am figuring out, you know, there are some very good reasons why every other nation hates americans. I even hate some americans' brazen behavior, many displayed at this olympics.

"He looked dazed when he saw his score of 9.137, which dropped him 12th place."

Can anyone who knows anything about gymnastics scoring tell me the following. (I may be a gymnastics idiot but I still know how to add and subtract, so if you guys can help me plug in the numbers then maybe I'll get a clearer picture. thanks):
1)Was Paul Hamm's starting value for the event where he fell a 9.9?
2)What is the maximium loss for stepping out of the line, and falling down; then what is the discrepancy between what the judges deducted for stepping out of the line and falling down versus his score (I'm trying to discern after subtracting appropriate amount from his fall, did the judges also take enough points off for other erros, or were the assuming that other parts of his routine were close to flawlessly executed?
3)Somebody told me that in any olympic event prior to this one, any player who fell down out of the line in a similar manner Hamm did never got above a 8.7. Is that true? If it is how did the judges score Paul Hamm's horrendous event?
4)Also somebody was telling me that since a judge had to hold Paul up (otherwise, who knows where he could have ended up), Paul should actually have been disqualified? Is there any validity in that?

5)Why was Hamm's score higher than Alexi's last night? What made it harder and better?
6) Why was that guy who went last night (Cassina?)and did some crazy jumping jacks in the high bar routine get the same score as Hamm to the hundreds of thousanths of a pt (both received i think 9.812)
7) Is Khorkina another victim to biased judgin. Or did Patterson really win her all around medal?
8) why do Patterson and Hamm both have just a distasteful, classeless, stuck-up attitude. Patterson responded to Khokina's angry comments with "I don't care. I thinks she's just a sore loser." Hamm, well you guys all know by now what he's been saying. I am an American, but I am figuring out, you know, there are some very good reasons why every other nation hates americans. I even hate some americans' brazen behavior, many displayed at this olympics.

Hi,
to all those people who were wondering who simon is, it's actually I.

Yeehaw, meself the honorable George W. And the Simone who judges the ladies events is my manfriend Chingy Cheney.

I've been watching the gymnastic circus with increasing disbelief and cynicism... if you just watched the programs that the athletes performed, the Americans were clearly outclassed on several levels. Yet we keep walking away with medals! I mean, the Russian and Ukranian women do routines with actual grace and flair, instead of going from trick to trick with a few cheerleader moves thrown in (like SOME Americans I could name), and the judges consistently tilt the scoreboard in our favor. And Paul Hamm's routines, when he wasn't blatantly screwing up, definitely didn't have the same complexity and clean lines of some of his competition. Nemov was robbed, and Cassina only grudgingly rewarded (yeah, he took a step... and Hammy hopped sideways). They need to throw out ALL of the gymnastic judges, and bring in some people with actual standards. Maybe they should watch the diving judges at work to see how it SHOULD be done!

RUSSIANS - THE STRONGEST! ALEXEI - STILL THE BEST!!! MEDALS' OWNERS - STUPID CLOWNS.

You guys think its the althletes fault. All they did was partitipate. Hamm and Patterson are great althletes and they deserved it. They worked hard. Now tell me if you grew up as gymnist and knew all the rules to judging. it's not favoritism cause then the U.S wouldn't have won. Remember we are clearly hated around the world. DONT TAKE IT OUT ON THE ATLETES THEY REPRESENT YOUR COUNTRY AND TRY THEIR BEST. what shame, we might as well not have a US team if fans like you don't root for them.

"it's rules and judging system, or even proper English"

If you're going to insult someone's literacy, I'd advise checking that your own is up to par first. "It's" is an abbreviation of "it is", you were looking for the possessive "its".

i think that ALEXEI Nemov Performed his BEST thats why he deserved the GOLD Medal in the bar...
To Paul Hamm...tsk..tsk

"i think that ALEXEI Nemov Performed his BEST thats why he deserved the GOLD Medal in the bar...
To Paul Hamm...tsk..tsk"

Yes, Nemov was great (though I thought the Italian was slightly better). Regardless, Nemov did deserve a medal, but how is that Paul Hamm's fault? The all around is one story, but on the high bar, was Paul Hamm suppose to say, oh, judges were dumb, here, have my medal? Who ever did that before? A lot of people don't think Tampakos deserved the gold on rings (the Bulgarian's routine was great), so should he hand it over? The Japanese on the parallel bars totally got robbed, but no one gave him a medal. ?!?!