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Temporary Blogging Disruptions

31 July, 2003 9:19 AM

Just a quick post before I leave for the day to say sorry to those of you who have had comments from 'Greg' left on your blog overnight.

'Greg' has a habbit of getting out and spreading the word for me. I'm not sure what the issue really is. If there are things about my approach that are 'unbiblical' I'm more than willing to be confronted on them and to rectify the situation. I don't really see myself as a 'liberal' or 'lefty' - I'm not sure why I keep getting this label apart from the fact that I tend to take seriously Jesus command to love others as myself. Anyway, I'm open to talking about any issue, just shoot me some mail or leave a comment (with valid email) and I'll dialogue about anything!

And Greg - sigh - buddy, I know you have some issues with the approach we're taking - I'd love to chat with you someday about them to find out if we could find some common ground. I know you are from Australia, so if you're ever up for a coffee, or would like to come to Living Room to see first hand what we do, just shoot me an email.

I'm afraid that every time you leave comments on other people's sites telling them to boycott my blog that all you do is send more people to it, like last time you did this campaign today I've had higher than normal hits - so I guess I should thankyou.

sorry to leave such a long comment, but I've no other way of getting messages to Greg.

This is the last time that I will mention you on this blog Greg - I'll be deleting any comments you might leave, unless you show you are serious about dialogue and discussing the issues you raise by leaving a valid email address. As I said, I'm more than willing to be confronted and challenged, but not by an anonamous stranger who is not willing to have a true interaction.

Anyway, lets get on with life and not get too worked up by this. Now, lets all head over to Rachel's and lend a hand by buying a great CD at a cheap rate! (free links here to anyone who does!!!)

Peace

Ethos, Pathos, Logos....Blogos

27 July, 2003 11:46 PM

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I have been thinking today about rhetoric. Aristotle described it as "the ability, in each particular case, to see the available means of persuasion." He talked about three main arts of rhetoric as being Ethos, Pathos and Logos.

Ethos is persuasion based on the character and/or credentials of the communicator. If the communicator is trustworthy, has their listener's best interests at heart, knows what they are talking about, practices what they preach and has integrity they are more likely to be persuasive.

Pathos is persuasion based on emotion. When people have a strong connection with the communicator on a 'feeling' level their argument can become all the more powerful. Engage the heart and you'll be all the more likely to convince one's audience.

Logos is persuasion based on logic or reason. If a communicator makes sense and their argument is presented in an ordered and conclusive manner they are likely to convince the listener well.

I've found these three arts as being useful in thinking about speaking/preaching. Most good speakers that I've heard have had the ability to draw on each of these in their speaking. They also weave them together at the appropriate time. Alone each are important tools but when you bring them together they can be quite powerful.

Similarly, in the last few months I've noticed that many good bloggers (or at least the ones I like) are also able to draw on each of these three 'arts' in their blogging. Different bloggers will be stronger in different ways, but I suspect that many top bloggers will be able to bring each to their blogging.

An interesting book on this topic and Paul's writing is Paul's Use of Ethos, Pathos, and Logos in 2 Corinthians 10-13.

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Tea for Two

27 July, 2003 3:38 PM

Had Tea with Jenn from Sunburned on Friday morning. I always enjoy the exeperience of meeting bloggers in real life. Its amazing how similar people can be in person.

Jenn and I chatted alot about emerging church here in Melbourne and around the world. Its great to hear that alot of what is happening here is representative of what is happening in other parts of the globe.

Jenn's story is pretty interesting - I'm looking forward to seeing how and where God leads her next!

Last week I also caught up with fellow Melbournian bloggers Eddie and Phil. Again - it was great to catch up and hear the stories of these two EC practitioners here in our local context. Very encouraging times.

Celebrating the Underblog - Final Entry

27 July, 2003 1:21 PM

Well I've enjoyed this mini campaign to uncover 100 underblogs. I think we've met the target with exactly 100 blogs nominated. Here are the full set for your reading pleasure. I thought I'd post them all here in one post for our surfing convenience. You can continue to nominate blogs here in comments, but note that I won't be posting any more on the main page until next time we do it. (maybe at the end of the year we'll have another week long campaign)

Thanks everyone who has nominated blogs and also those who've surfed and linked them. I've noticed quite a few people have mentioned on their blogs that they've found a new interesting blog or two through the process - so I guess its had some positive effect.

A special thankyou to Irene who has really gotten into the idea and has nominated quite a few blogs over the week!

Anyway - keep enjoying the Smorgasbord (or should that be blogesborg?) above and pay it forward by linking your favs.

Beth :: Traces :: servant-striving :: After Abortion Blog :: Sunburned :: Le Sabot Post-Moderne :: Pooing in the Woods :: Carrie Church :: mute TROUBADOUR :: A minor :: Something Understood :: The Thinkers Blog :: Odd Socks :: dydimustk :: Jax :: Passion and Reason :: K.I.S.S :: The Unnecessary Pastor :: Food for Fish :: Hot Buttered Death :: Pursuit :: The Narrow Way :: Fallible :: In That Number :: Sam's Worship Thoughts :: the John Heron Project :: Bipolar Support :: Spudlets :: The Brog Blog :: Bad Attitudes :: Xoverboard :: Not Geniuses :: Batemania :: A Copernican Revolution :: Easily Distracted :: Cronaca :: Ideo Fact :: le sofa blogger :: The Cave :: Jay :: Dann :: Jazzdaddy's Journal :: Drawn by still waters :: Live the life :: Life Being Beautiful :: Aarondot :: Simple Green :: The Red Door :: Crimson Light :: Sisters' Weblog :: Big Simon :: Jake Rinard :: Newsrack :: ExGayWatch :: All Facts and Opinons :: Franklin's Findings :: Buzzing Bye :: Leaving Munster :: Organic Church :: Paradosis :: Doxos :: A New Kind of Christian :: The Found Sheep :: Crystals blog :: Mark's blog :: the worrywort and the trickster :: j. klaszus' domain :: Tune Out TV :: The Starloft :: Joe's journal :: Waiken's Soap Box :: Clarity Amidst Chaos :: Future Margins :: The Thinklings :: Jen Speaks :: Only Connect :: Citizen of the State :: Soft Edges :: Asisaid.com: Tim's Journal :: Lifelines? :: Brainwaves :: Theopany :: Galvin :: Holly :: Daily Drivel :: Insights :: Words of Wisdom :: Danger! Falling Brainwaves :: Petals Art Journal :: A Blog Apart :: Lordside :: Country Keepers :: I Was Thinking :: Jagged Mind :: The Evangelical Hermit :: Adam Feldman :: Doc Misterio :: Mindless Musings of a Roach :: Miriam's Journal

Celebrating the Underblog VII

25 July, 2003 5:07 PM

I've received a few nominations via email in this batch. We're getting to the end of the week. I'll post any last minute nominations tomorrow to close off our Week of the Underblog.

Le Sabot Post-Moderne :: Pooing in the Woods :: Carrie Church :: mute TROUBADOUR :: A minor :: Something Understood :: The Thinkers Blog :: Odd Socks :: dydimustk :: Jax :: Passion and Reason :: K.I.S.S :: The Unnecessary Pastor :: Food for Fish :: Hot Buttered Death :: Pursuit :: The Narrow Way :: Fallible :: In That Number :: Sam's Worship Thoughts :: the John Heron Project :: Bipolar Support :: Spudlets

That takes us to 94 Underblogs identified and surfed. 6 more in just these last few hours and we'll reach the 100 mark! Who's got some to nominate!?!

Nominate, surf and link - keep paying it forward.

Cut and Pasting Steve

25 July, 2003 12:08 PM

Steve gets blunt on 'pomo blogging'.

If I can be a little blunt, most of the Christian blogs that I read are not about experiences of people engaging in first world mission. They seem by and large to be the collective "cuttings and pastings" of people with little or no practical experience in post modern mission. Any kind of original thinking is simply cut from one site and pasted to the other until a small circle of bloggers are talking second and third hand about someone elses experiences, living vicariously though others (the few) mission experience, simply feeding our "blind to our own eyes" consumerism.

Is there really any benefit from blogging?

I thought that quote was worth Cutting and Pasting!

Leave comments here

Celebrating the Underblog VI

24 July, 2003 5:08 PM

And still the nominations roll in for Underblogs. I've found some great blogs in this process so far. Its interesting to see that a growing number of nominations are coming from outside the 'God-Blogosphere' (if there is such a thing) - many of which I am really enjoying.

This latest batch will take us up to 70 Underblogs identified so far. I'm going to draw nominations to a close on Saturday (that will have been a week since I put the call out - lets go for 100!)

The Brog Blog :: Bad Attitudes :: Xoverboard :: Not Geniuses :: Batemania :: A Copernican Revolution :: Easily Distracted :: Cronaca :: Ideo Fact :: le sofa blogger

Remember to surf some of the above and pick one or two to link to to pay it (great blogging times) forward!

Sunburned in Melbourne

23 July, 2003 5:03 PM

I've been following Jenn's great blog over the past month as she's prepared to come to and has more recently arrived in Melbourne from the US to be involved with UNOH here.

Her observations and experiences are well worth the read as she adjusts to life downunder! Her latest entry on Reasons why Australia is a land that captivates me is a ripper. (That's Aussie for unreal!)

Looking forward to a coffee with Jenn on Friday morning.

Celebrating the Underblog V

23 July, 2003 1:07 PM

A few more underblog nominations have been dribbling in. Check them out.

The Cave :: Jay :: Dann :: Jazzdaddy's Journal :: Drawn by still waters :: Live the life :: Life Being Beautiful :: Aarondot :: Simple Green :: The Red Door

Nominate, Surf and Link.

An Underblogger Responds

22 July, 2003 4:04 PM

I just received an email from one of the underblogs listed early. They wish to remain anonymous but write:

Hi Darren. Thankyou so much for your latest series of posts on 'Celebrating the Underblog'. I have been blogging for a number of months now and have been getting very disillusioned with the exercise. I am sick of looking at my statistics counter and realising that I am almost the only person that reads what I write. The only comments I've had in the past have been from people trawling for hits on their own site. I sometimes get angry that only some blogs seem to get noticed when I think I have something to say also.

Last night I checked my counter and almost fainted when I saw 12 hits all linking from your blog. There was also three comments from people I've never heard of before. This morning I had also been linked by another blog who had found me through your campaign.

I know 12 hits and 3 comments are not much in comparison to most blogs, but to me that meant the world. To my knowledge I've never been linked to before, yet today there are two. Thankyou to you and your readers. I hope that this shows us all how just a little encouragement can inject hope into a discouraged person's life.

Nominate, surf, link and Celebrate

Celebrating the Underblog IV

22 July, 2003 3:19 PM

And still the underblog nominations roll in - we've had some doubleups, so I won't post repeat nominations. Feel free to keep submitting your favs - but above all take some time out to surf and link up to some of these gems.

Crimson Light :: Sisters' Weblog :: Big Simon :: Jake Rinard :: Newsrack :: ExGayWatch :: All Facts and Opinons :: Franklin's Findings :: Buzzing Bye :: Leaving Munster :: Organic Church :: Paradosis :: Doxos :: A New Kind of Christian :: The Found Sheep :: Crystals blog :: Mark's blog :: the worrywort and the trickster :: j. klaszus' domain

Celebrating the Underblog III

21 July, 2003 2:14 PM

The nominations for great Underblogs continue to roll in. Thanks for those who've spread the word on their own blogs. Here are the next 16 nominations.

Tune Out TV :: The Starloft :: Joe's journal :: Waiken's Soap Box :: Clarity Amidst Chaos :: Future Margins :: The Thinklings :: Jen Speaks :: Only Connect :: Citizen of the State :: Soft Edges :: Asisaid.com: Tim's Journal :: Lifelines? :: Brainwaves :: Theopany :: Galvin

Now this campaign is useless unless we surf, encourage and celebrate some of these blogs.

Here is my idea - lets do a 'Pay it Forward' type thing here. Click on some of the above (and below) links - find one that you like - and then link to it on your own blog too. If we all do that we might just make a difference in the blogosphere - one link at a time.

Keep leaving your nominations - I'll post every one of them. (famous last words)

Celebrating the Underblog II

21 July, 2003 1:02 PM

Thanks for the great response so far to my call for quality underblogs. So far the caliber of blogs submitted are excellent - some have even been mentioned a couple of times. Here is the first 16 links. (see previous comments for expanded comments on each.)

Holly :: Daily Drivel :: Insights :: Words of Wisdom :: Danger! Falling Brainwaves :: Petals Art Journal :: A Blog Apart :: Lordside :: Country Keepers :: I Was Thinking :: Jagged Mind :: The Evangelical Hermit :: Adam Feldman :: Doc Misterio :: Mindless Musings of a Roach :: Miriam's Journal

Check out some of the above blogs - you won't be disappointed. Keep the nominations coming. I'll post the next batch shortly.

Celebrating the Underblog

20 July, 2003 9:20 AM

What blog/s do you read that you wish others knew about? Leave your nominations here.

I sometimes look for new blogs (to me) at Who links Who (for GodBlogs) and The Blogosphere Ecosystem (drawing on blogs from the whole blogosphere). Today I popped into both and decided to work through some of the blogs at the bottom of the lists (blogs that haven't attracted many links). I had an hour or so and I got through quite a few and was really impressed with the quality of blogging going on in both the Christian blogging world and the blogosphere at large.

It got me thinking though - so many of the blogs on the lists I've never seen or heard of. Many of them don't attract a whole heap of links - yet many of them are posting great material.

So I thought I'd start a campaign to unearth some of these 'underblogs'.

- Leave up to 5 blogs that you wish more people knew about in the comments section below. Please include the name and its address. (hyperlink them if you know how)

- Leave a short reason why you like the blog.

- You can leave a link to your own blog if you think it fits the category of 'underblog'.

- I will publish all the collected underblogs that you mention in a few days time in the main section of this blog in a 'Celebration of the Underblog' post.

Gospel Blogging

19 July, 2003 10:40 AM

How would blogging look if we applied gospel principles to it?

I was reading an article a few weeks ago that talked about promoting your blog. It was about 'getting hits' and being linked to by the Alist blogs. One of the key strategies was to target two or three 'big bloggers'. To do it you need to link to them lots, leave comments on their pages, send them emails notifying them of your best posts etc.

The Blogsperts tell us that to have a great blog its all about climbing the blogging tree - looking at the blogs 'ahead' of us and using them to drag us up to the next level. Its about ego, building little empires, power and inluence.

That same day I found myself in the gospels reading verses that talked about denying oneself, serving others, aiming to be last rather than first, focusing our attention on the 'least of these' and humility.

My question of US as Christian bloggers is this: does blogging according to the 'blogsperts' advice fit with the gospel message? Do we buy into the 'climbing the blogging tree'? What would blogging from a gospel perspective looks like?

Fred Peatross words have been ringing in my ears this past week:

'So if blogging is an emerging 21st century Christian discipline (as I have recently read) someone please model the act of death and humility through their weblog journaling. There's a robust blogging community out there who needs you to help those of us who are still trying to see ourselves.'

How do we do this? What does it look like in practice? Your thoughts, ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

UPDATE Irene and Martin (22nd July) have picked up the topic and done it much greater justice than I have here.

On Safari

16 July, 2003 9:30 AM

A couple of days ago I downloaded Safari 1.0 to test as a browser. Its still got a few little things that I don't like, but it has revolutionised my time online.

I'm in love with its tabbed browsing. It has cut surfing my blogroll down to about a third of what I used to take to do the whole thing.

Its layout is clean.

It is easy to use - even for a techie illiterate like me.

Its bookmarking system is the best I've seen.

Top stuff from Apple again.

Quilting Nets

15 July, 2003 11:21 PM

I've been thinking alot about what my square contribution will be to Rachel's digital quilt. I haven't fully decided but spent a little bit of time tonight thinking about it. Here is my first idea (not final).

100pixels is pretty small so I'm not sure if you can make out the pic, but its of two boys fishing with a net. One of them has just thrown the net out and it is fanned out wide in the air. There is a number of reasons that this image has captured my imagination. There isn't a whole heap of logic or connection between them, but I like them all.

1. We are called to be 'fishers of people'. My time in the blogisphere is helping me to become a better fisherman as I interact with others who are thinking about how to 'fish' in the crazy world we live in.

2. A net is made up of lots of individual strands of twine. As I look down my blog roll I see a hundred or so relationships (all in different stages) which perhaps make up a larger net. The strands are not only between me and each person behind those blogs, but also between many of those bloggers and each other. The global net work that is emerging in the blogisphere is intricate and growing stronger.

3. Each morning as I launch into the blogisphere I feel like I'm throwing out a 'net'. I make a post and wonder what it will 'catch' as others interact with it. Sometimes it doesn't connect and the net comes back empty. Other times one or two others relate in comments or their own posts and the net comes back with a small catch, and other times the catch is overflowing with flapping fish as a tidal wave of comments and posts is released into the blogisphere. Likewise in the morning when I begin to trawl through my blog roll I love the feeling of not knowing what I'll come across (catch...or be caught by) as I surf.

4. Lastly - the Kingdom of God is described as being like a net that is drawn through the ocean drawing all kinds of fish to shore where they will be sorted. I love that imagery of God drawing us to himself in all our splendid variety. This is the sense I sometimes get of what is happening in the blogisphere. There have been numerous times when I've felt drawn closer to God through reading someone's blog or comments left on mine. We are all so different, but hopefully as we bounce off one another as we read and write, we are being drawn to him.

Maybe I'm overdoing the metaphors tonight - but its what I'm thinking about on this rainy, cold, Melbourne's eve.

Digital Quilt

14 July, 2003 10:52 AM

Rachel is making a digital quilt and asks that we all contribute a sqare. What a great idea - check out her requirements and get busy being creative.

I'm glad I don't have to sew it all together.

Why Livingroom.org.au is better than JohnCampea.Com and therefore JordonCooper.Com!

13 July, 2003 12:07 AM

John Campea has posted on why his blog is better than Jordon Cooper's blog.

Well John's assessments are good - however would like to add a few points on why Livingroom.org.au is better than JohnCampea.Com!

1) John's posts are a lot better written than mine. His posts are insightful, use big words and leave his readers feeling challenged, motivated and inspired. Whilst this at first seems ideal, regular readers of his blog could be intimidated by the quality. I, on the other hand, am aiming to make my readers feel good about themselves as they see my poor grammar, spelling and choice of subject matter.

2) John only has 16 links in his blogroll in comparison to my 125 (not including those on my quality links page). Whilst this might seem a little excessive it gives you the reader 109 extra options when I don't post anything exciting, or worse still forget to post at all!

3) John lives in the northern hemisphere. That's at the top of the globe. Everyone knows that going down is much easier than going up and therefore data flow to LivingRoom.org.au is much faster, thus saving you the reader a lot of time and energy.

4) John has worked in churches for at least 12 years. I have only done such work for 10 years. I will therefore be a lot less battered and bruised.

5) John also has experience working in the computer industry - I don't have a technical bone in my body (see point 3 for how this should help my readers feel a lot better about themselves and their ability to develop great blogs.)

6) John lives in Canada - I live in Australia....need I elaborate???

7) To my knowledge John is yet to post on the topics of farting, toilets, vomit or spitting. I make a point of posting on topics that the general public will be able to relate to.

8) John 'cheers' for something or someone called the 'Maple Leafs'. I'm not sure what that means....but I'm sure my beloved Navy Blues could whip their butts!

9) John may only have one eye. The photo on his site cuts off half his face. This either means he is:

- attempting to be 'rock starish'
- missing an eye
- unable to operate a camera to get a centred shot

The pic also seems to indicate that he has an earring! (and he said Jordon was Satanic!)

10) John is obviously only blogging in an attempt to get hits. You can tell this by his domain name. You may think he chose it because its his name - but no its because his name contains some of the most searched words in search engines. (oh, camp, am, amp, pea)

So there you have it. 10 reasons why LivingRoom.org.au is much better than JohnCampea.Com and therefore better than JordonCooper.Com

Recommended

11 July, 2003 10:59 AM

I'm officially a Recommended Blog!

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