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Emerging Church Critiqued

29 July, 2004 12:03 PM

In the past 7 days I've heard a number of criticisms of 'Emerging Churches' and more specifically of LivingRoom from other Christians. Whilst I'm not adverse to being critiqued (I think its a healthy to be asked probing questions) I'm left a little perplexed by two of the main themes that I'm hearing repeated in these criticisms (usually received third hand).

On one hand we've been accused of liberalism. 'Where are the converts?' is a question that is often asked. 'How many have you seen come to Christ? seems to be the ultimate measure of our 'success'.

On the other end of the spectrum we've been accused of being too evangelical and not interested in social justice. 'How are you involved in your community?' is a question that I get a bit. 'What holistic projects are you running to help the disadvantaged and poor in your neighborhood?' was one question fired at me recently to analyze if what we was doing is significant.

I actually think both sets of questions are valid and worth considering. We've identified as a community that we want to respond to the call of Jesus in having an impact upon our world - we call it our 'Outer Journey' and it incorporates both the call to impact the world we live in in word and deed, in evangelism and in social justice. This is the theory at least - but what about practice? I think most churches would align themselves with this kind of thinking, but do we actually do it? Does LivingRoom?

One of the reasons I suspect people look at LivingRoom and critique us the way they do is that we have taken a very non programmatic approach to our 'Outward Journey'. We don't have a high school program, we don't run a soup kitchen, we don't do door knocking or run youth rallies. We don't have a formalized corporate approach to evangelism or social justice - rather we see that each of us as individuals has ample opportunity to be involved in these missional activities in our natural daily rhythms and routines.

In fact as I think about our core group members (not a formal membership but those who regularly attend and participate) I see a group of people who are each involved in a variety of forms of mission. Some give time each week to community or social justice groups/projects, for others (over half of us) our work takes us into the coal face in terms of working with the disadvantaged, unwell and poor. Each one of us has plenty of contact with unchurched people in our universities, work places, homes, sporting clubs etc - and we regularly share stories with one another of the encounters God opens up for us to join him in his life giving processes.

So does 'LivingRoom' do evangelism, mission, social justice (however you may define these terms)? I would answer the question in the affirmative. Church to me is much more than what we do when we gather together, but is as much (if not more) about what we do when we scatter.

Having written all this I find myself asking - am I copping out? Are we making excuses? Are we really moving forward in our Outer journey? These are questions I constantly ask myself and I don't want to paint a picture here on this blog that we're the ultimate 'missional machine' - by no means have we 'made it' in finding the way to respond to the call of Jesus to be the 'light of the world' or to 'go make disciples'. We've got a LONG way to go - we're a young community still finding our feet and identity and part of this is challenging ourselves in this area. We struggle with this as much as any other church and have all the same barriers to mission that any other group of Western Christians might have - we get lazy, comfortable, consumeristic, scared and distracted. We do need to be shaken up, to get serious and to step out of our comfort zones. I'm not satisfied in our approach to the Outer Journey but I am confident that we're heading in a Godly and Biblical direction that fits well with our culture.

There may come a day when we feel God calling us to up our corporate/together efforts in our 'Outer Journey'. We have experimented with a few things already and will continue to do so.

The question I'm left with is what to do with the critiques? You see on some levels they are valid questions that I want to be impacted and challenged by - they can be and are life giving questions that spur me on. On another level they have the power to stop us (and our movement) in our tracks with frustration and disillusionment. They also have the potential to divide and destroy the Body of Christ.

I do not desire to see the Emerging Church splinter from the rest of the Body of Christ - its not about 'us and them'. I didn't start LivingRoom because I don't like other forms of church - I love the Church and want to do anything and everything in my power to build it up - whatever shape or form it might take.

What concerns me is that most of the critiques I hear of us come to me third hand from discussions that I hear other groups having about us. This is frustrating on many levels.

1. I'm getting second hand information that is probably not accurate.
2. I would love to be a part of these conversations to be challenged by them.
3. I'd love a chance to speak to the critiques - not to defend or debate but rather so that others can understand what they are seeing from a distance.
4. I want to build unity. We need to be accountable to, supporting and praying for each other.

Ok - this has turned into something of a rant - I'm sorry for that. I'm actually processing a lot of this through writing it (which may not be a particularly helpful thing to do in a public forum) - but I'm really interested in others thoughts and input. What would you do? Is this a place others are finding themselves in? I would love to hear your experiences and advice if you have time.

Australian Idol 2 Top 30 Contestants

28 July, 2004 11:44 AM

Here is the Australian Idol 2 Contestants that made it to the Top 30 Anthony Callea
Chanel Cole
Ben Eaton
Courtney Murphy
Emily George
Hayley Jensen
Laurence Sorbello
Meri Bosenavulagi
Prinnie Stevens
Ngaiire Joseph
Adrian Hood
Amali Ward
Angeline Narayan
Barry Southgate
Billie McCarthy
Carlos Velazquez
Casey Donovan
Chloe Skipp
Christie Green
Daniel Belle
Daniel O'Conner
Emelia Rusciano
Gabriel Cabrera
Garth Ploog
Liza Schulberg
Marty Worrall
Maya McClean
Nicole Wheatley
Ricki-Lee Coulter
Tara Del Borrello

Sunburned in Melbourne

28 July, 2004 10:10 AM

Jenn has started blogging again at Sunburned - Yay!

This time its a photoblog - very cool.

Jenn lives in Melbourne so its a good way of seeing a bit of my city. Enjoy.

E-vangelism.com Relaunched

27 July, 2004 12:09 PM

Andrew Careaga has blogified his old e-vangelism.com website. Looking good - will be one to keep an eye on.

Sustaining Emerging Church

27 July, 2004 1:19 AM

There is an interesting discussion going on over at Jonny Bakers on the issue of funding for Emerging Churches. It comes out of a community in London not receiving funding from the Church of England through a grant they've applied for.

I've posted my comments over there but thought I'd also do so here as its taken me a good hour to put them together. You might need to read the other comments on Jonny's to understand some of what I've written below.

It is an issue that I've thought about a lot lately and found myself going backwards and forwards a little on it.

On one hand I'm incredibly grateful for the support my own denomination has given me in giving us a seeding grant to help get us going for two years. I'm realizing how unique a position they are taking in wanting to not only give permission but wanting to put their money where their mouth is. I hope that this becomes more and more common for denominations. If we want to see the Church survive into the decades and years ahead then we need to see a significant investment from the established church into those exploring new directions.

On the other hand I do wonder if we need to explore some new ways of thinking about clergy and new ways about sustaining ourselves financially.


I can only talk about my own community and my own context, but I've been challenged recently to readjust what I've been thinking about 'full time ministry'.

For me it was always a goal for a similar list of reasons to what Gareth outlined (in comments at Jonny's) - but recently I've been wondering why we seem to want a paid minister to do a lot of those sorts of roles. I guess I've personally been feeling God leading me in a direction that Lucy is alluding to and am attempting to create a community where it is not just the 'minister/clergy' that does the pastoral care, community development, running of gatherings, linking with other churches but where there is a community of disciples who are all responding to the call of Jesus by fulfilling these things.

Now because i do have some giftings, training and experience in some of this stuff I might take some of it on - but I'm hoping to move to a position where we have an environment where participation means I'm just one of many doing this stuff.

Having said this (I said I go backwards and forwards on this stuff didn't I?) I still think there is a role for paid ministry/clergy. Leadership is important and each community will identify different things they will want/need these leaders to do. The question then comes to how to fund it?

I think its time we did some serious talking about this question and explore some options that might include a combination of:

- Denominational (and interdenominational) grants/support. We need to keep communicating to the powers that be the need for experimentation, new forms of church etc. I think its very important for denominations and established churches to support what we do.

- Bi-vocational Ministry - Its a bit of a hobby horse at the moment for me but I'm feeling more and more drawn to the 'secular' workforce and have been blogging about it a bit lately. I think its something more and more of us 'clergy' types should explore for a multitude of reasons including sustainability - but also for reasons of mission, reality check etc. I've made a conscious decision this year to start my own business and am finding it an incredibly liberating experience that is invigorating my ministry and giving me so many opportunities for missional encounters.

- Self Funding - I've been challenging my community lately to step up to the mark in their giving. Why should we expect our denomination to pay me to care for them? If we decide that one of the roles of a leader in our community is pastoral care....or worship leading...or preaching...(things that largely focus upon the group itself) shouldn't they contribute to the financing of such a role? I thin we have to bite the bullet as communities at some point and stop putting our hand out to our denominations to fund us and work on ways of sustaining ourselves.

- Churches running Missional Enterprises - I'm seeing more and more churches that are running businesses or that are developing income streams. Often these income streams are missional in their focus. Some I've seen include opening cafes, pizza shops, galleries, gift shops, starting guitar schools, hiring our their buildings to community groups, starting book stores, running skills based courses in the community, running welfare programs and getting grants from governments, running multi media courses etc. In this way many of them are not only creating an income stream but are developing proximity in their communities.

Ok - its now 1.20am here in Melbourne and I've been thinking about this way too long. Hope its been a worthwhile contribution to this good discussion. Will probably post this over at my own blog too.

Missional Entrepreneurship

26 July, 2004 11:50 AM

One of the things that I've started in the last month is an internship in 'Missional Entrepreneurship'.

'Huh?!?' you say....that's what I said too when I first heard the term.

Let me explain a little with a story.

When I was 9 or 10 I started my first business. I noticed back then that the boys in my class started doing some 'weird' stuff. They started talking about girls. Actually at first it wasn't really 'girls' - they started with women, women they'd never met. To be more specific the woman they all seemed to be interested in was Brooke Shields. They talked about her incessantly. Not only did she invade our conversation but she also started to invade their school books. They would stick her picture all over their books, on their pencil cases - anywhere they found space.

I was at home one day and I noticed one of my mum's magazines lying on a the table. I'd seen them around the house before, but had never taken any notice until now - Brooke Shields was on the cover. Not only that there was around 10 pictures of her inside. A light went on in my mind. The boys at school wanted pictures of Brooke Shields - I had 10 of them.


I hadn't heard of 'Supply and Demand' or any other economic terms, but I knew an opportunity when I saw one and the next day at school I set up my 'Brooke Shields Shop. I 'mentioned' my stash of pictures to the biggest loud mouth in the class and soon I had more customers that I could supply - I also had $4!

Mum's old magazine collection kept me going for a while - plenty of Brooke in them. Once I ran out of Brooke pictures I started talking up other models, pop singers and movie stars. I even sold a few pictures of male movie stars to the girls in my class.

Once mum's old magazine ran out I started buying women's magazines myself (I got a few weird looks from the newsagent). I could make $4-$5 per magazine profit. I was rolling in money (or so I thought) but my windfall was short lived as my teacher soon caught wind of my venture and told me it wasn't appropriate for me to fund my candy habit by taking advantage of the hormones beginning to appear in my class mates. My first business promptly died.

My second business was similar - it took place in my second year of high school - my mum had a big stash of rulers, pens, pads and pencils left over from a school fete. Once again I saw an opportunity and opened up a mini stationary shop selling them out of the empty locker next to mine to my classmates who had lost their pen or forgotten to bring their pencil case to school. Once again the business didn't last long because I soon sold out of my supply of pens and rulers.

Growing up through high school I was always drawn to 'business' type subjects. I did Economics, Accounting, Legal Studies, Politics and English in my final year of high school and studied Marketing at University. I always wanted to expand on these skills and saw myself as a business man.

As I've shared before on this blog - this all came to an end when I had a 're-conversion' experience as a 21 year old. I decided that I wanted to give my life over to God in the best way that I knew how - 'Ministry'. The advice I received from some influential people was to quit my Marketing degree and go to bible college. Seemed like good advice at the time - I mean how could someone truly be a Christian in Marketing right - isn't that just about greed, manipulating people and accumulating money?

Surely truly dedicated Christians showed their commitment to God by giving up such things and going into mission or ministry?

So for the last decade I've suppressed any inkling of business or enterprise that may have existed within me. I saw such a focus as not being compatible with what God would want for my life. In fact at times I secretly I quite arrogantly looked at some of those around me who had chosen to work in the 'secular' workplace as being second rate Christians.

The past few years have seen a turn around in my thinking on this topic (one of the many changes in my life lately). I'm still thinking and praying it through, but I alongside my changed thinking on 'what a church is' I'm feeling challenged to rethink what it means to be a 'disciple' also.

If a disciple is someone who loves God, loves the world they live in and loves their fellow believers (inner, outer, together journeys/calls of Jesus) then I can't see why someone exclusively focusing upon doing church based 'ministry' is responding in a more dedicated way than anyone else.

In fact I'm starting to realize that especially when it comes to 'mission' (or loving the world) - it can be more advantageous to actually be in business than locked away in 'church ministry'.

Before I go on I'm not wanting to put down the idea that God calls some to full time, Church based ministry. No way - I know many people who I genuinely feel that God has gifted for and called to work with Christians in Churches. What I'm wanting to describe is a rebalancing in my own mind and life. I guess I'm discovering a place of balance in my own life after the pendulum has swung to an extreme over the last decade.

Basic mission principle 1 - if you want to be effective as a missionary you have to have proximity to them. Where do most adults spend most of their waking hours each week? The Work Place. So on a very micro level I think we need to start seeing the work place, business, enterprises etc as a place where we need to encourage Christians to be in, not just to put food on the table and to help fund 'real ministry' but as a primary place of ministry/mission/faith itself.

I'm also thinking on a macro level also. Business/Commerce/Enterprise is perhaps the most powerful influence on our society in the West today. The Church used to play a pretty influential role in society but has been pushed aside (some would say its forfeited the right to such influence by its own behavior). More and more I'm noticing that businesses are taking on the role of providing avenues for social concern/welfare that previously would have fallen back upon the Church and Government. I suspect this will happen increasingly in future.

The power that Business wields on our society is often labeled an 'Evil' - often rightly so. But rather than protesting from the fringes could another way forward be for Christians to influence from within? Maybe a twin approach is a way forward for us.

Perhaps I'm being naive, but most business people that I've met don't want to be manipulative, they actually do care for the society they live in, they do want to make a difference - they often just need to be encouraged to do so and see ways of ethical, life giving business to be modeled for them.

My realization of late - Mission and Enterprise are not necessarily mutually exclusive - ok its not profound - but I'm a little slow off the mark.

So recently I've decided to stop just thinking about these things and actually explore ways to test and actually implement some of them.

A few months back I looked around at the skills and experiences that I've had in life and decided that one of my passions is 'communication'. I love to communicate with people, especially on a mass communication level via speaking and writing. Communication energizes and inspires me and I take virtually every opportunity to speak or write that I can

Up until the last year or so I've exercised this passion almost exclusively through preaching and writing a few 'Christian' articles.

My experience in blogging over the past 18 months has also given me a few skills in developing websites, (not designing them but rather in search engine optimization, content generation etc). For me there is a natural meeting between this passion and the skills I've developed and so a small (micro) business has emerged.

Those who read this blog regularly will have sensed this as my blogging on this site has changed, been a little lighter and I keep mentioning other blogs that I've started. Some of you have expressed some concern to me over this change in my approach - I hope this post sheds some light on some of my thinking.

I'm not moving away from 'church ministry' - working intentionally for LivingRoom is still important to me and I foresee that I'll continue to do so in the years ahead in some paid part time capacity. However at this time I'm also wanting to explore re-igniting the entrepreneur within me and will explore how the skills and experiences that I've accumulated in my 32 years of life can be transferred into other arenas.

I'm not sure if I've expressed myself very well here - I'm sure there will be more posting on this topic over the next weeks as I continue to mull it over. If anyone is still reading this (sorry its been rather long and muddled) I'm interested in your thoughts as I always learn so much from what you all have to say.

Sending Daryl a Birthday Wish

25 July, 2004 12:27 PM

Rachel is starting a campaign for people to wish Darryl (currently away) a happy birthday.

She wants us to come up with a:

"* A verse/saying/quote/cool memory you have of him as encouragement to Darryl
* And for fun, a picture somewhere on the Internet that makes you think of Darryl or you think he'd have fun seeing."

She's BAAACK!

24 July, 2004 12:00 PM

Well she will be in 3 hours time. My lovely V will be back from her three week overseas trip at 3pm this afternoon.

I can't wait to see her and catch up on the last few crazy weeks.

Its been an amazing few weeks with some great opportunities opening up for me for 2005. Can't say too much at this point but some of the worries that I've been having over the past 12 months in terms of work/direction are beginning to sort themselves out. Its a great relief.

Anyway - got to run down the shops to get some flowers as a welcome home gift!

Testing Ecto

23 July, 2004 1:14 PM

This is my first test blog using Ecto Blogging Software. It allows me to blog while off line (uploaded later) which will change the way I blog for sure!

If this works I can see myself spending a lot more time in my local cafe blogging.

Update - I have to say that this is one of the best blogging tools I've every had the pleasure of using. Check out the great features for the Mac Version and the Windows Version.

Remote blogging, drag and drop image upload (including thumbnail functionality), full functional html editing (hard to get on a Mac in Safari on MT - previously I had to know a lot of html code), multi blog enabled plus heaps more.

Its sped up my blogging heaps - using the "New entry with selection" feature all you have to do is highlight text that you want to quote in your web browser and you can blog it (complete with the URL) with just a click or two. Excellent stuff.

2004 Underbloggers Revealed

22 July, 2004 12:07 PM

Jeff Jarvis was asked to provide a starter list of suggested blogs. Here is his list which contains some quality blogs. Who would you add to his list? I'm sure he wouldn't mind you popping over to make a suggestion or two... Well I hope he won't mind.

It reminded me that I should close nominations for my Celebrating the Underblog Project for 2004. I've posted the nominated blogs alphabetically (I'm sure there are some errors as I was overwhelmed by the response) as follows. There are hundreds - maybe even a thousand (anyone got the patience to count?) - of blogs. I've surfed through a lot of them and there are some quality ones. Head over and have a surf and link up to your favorites to help get some under rated bloggers the attention they deserve.

A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

It is interesting to see what some people consider an Underblog to be - there are definitely some included that I don't think fit the category - however each to their own. Have a look and see what you think.

Nominations are now closed for the 2004 intake.

Blog of the Week

22 July, 2004 10:39 AM

I got a bit of a buzz today while I was down the road having a coffee and I was flicking through the newspaper to find that one of my blogs is 'Blog of the Week'.

Viral Mission

22 July, 2004 8:20 AM

Tuesday night at LivingRoom we had a night of storytelling and sharing of our missional contexts. We each simply talked about the places we have proximity each week, the people we're growing relationships with and the opportunities God is opening up to join him in his life giving process. We put our thoughts down on a communal piece of paper and then spent some time praying about what we'd shared. Very simple but good to get back to that aspect of our community.

While we prayed I had a sense that if the Gospel was a virus that we'd be an ideal way to spread it as God sneezes us into our week of living beside, sharing life and rubbing shoulders with literally hundreds of people of people each week.

How Open?

20 July, 2004 4:24 PM

One of the things I've been wondering about the past month or so is how open to make Living Room gatherings to people outside our community who want to come for 'a look'.

It is becoming more and more common for us to have visitors to our Tuesday night gatherings - in fact every week for the past month I've had people ask if they can come and visit our group (I'm aware some of these people read this blog so please forgive me if you are one of them and don't take offense at anything I'm about to write - I'm not talking about any individual here, but in general terms about a broader issue than any person or group of people).

I always have a bit of a torn feeling inside of me when someone asks if they can come along to check us out.


On one hand I'm really excited for two reasons.

  • I want to share what we're doing with as many people as possible. There is a real interest here in Melbourne of people wanting to see new and different forms of church. Many are in the process of wanting to start their own and to taste and see who we are can be helpful in that process.
  • I also think LivingRoom benefits from new people and I like to have outside stimulation for our community. It's great to have interaction with new people - even on a one off basis. Some of our best nights have been with visitors stimulating our discussion.

However on the other hand I wonder what impact it is having on the group also on a number of fronts.

  • Constantly having new faces can impact the amount that some of our regulars will share of themselves. We are trying to create a safe place for deep sharing and growth. Whilst some of our group are fine with sharing deeply with visitors others (myself included) may not be as comfortable with this.
  • Because we are so small, one or two visitors can really change the dynamics of a night. Of course this can be positive, but it is difficult to get momentum going and establish patterns in a gathering over time with such coming and going. Also I find that in preparation for our nights I take into account who will and won't be there in terms of what we do. There are some things its not appropriate to talk about with visitors around (ie issues we're working through as a group in terms of our community/relationships etc). If we have a run of 4 weeks with visitors it has an impact.
  • It seems that around half of those who say they are coming - don't show up or ring in at the last minute that they won't be there. I suppose in a larger church context it doesn't matter quite so much if people don't show up, but in a small setting it is very noticeable. I guess people assume we operate on a 'come if you like' mentality. In actual fact we don't. Of course we have people away each week, but generally we know of people's movements in advance and can plan accordingly. By plan I mean plan for our meal (quantities of food etc) but also the content of what we do on the night. People not showing up can really throw a night off.
  • So why am I writing this? I'm hesitant to post it at all for fear that people will think I'm ranting, please believe that I'm not. I'm just trying to work out where the balance is. It's something I want to talk to the group about tonight actually - but I'm interested in my wise readers thoughts also. Has anyone thought this one through? How 'open' is your community to new one off visitors? Do you have some boundaries to keep the balance? Interested in your thoughts.

    Baby Photoblog

    20 July, 2004 1:10 PM

    I just stumbled on this touching photoblog of a father who is documenting the first days of life of his prematurely born child. What an amazing idea - the photos are beautifully shot and the stories/updates really draw you in.

    Meeting More Bloggers

    19 July, 2004 1:04 PM

    Just had a coffee with fellow blogger from Canberra, Darren Wright ('the other Darren' as he signs comments on my blog). Darren has a fair bit of online presence with blogs such as An Accidental Theoblogian and The Alternative Hymnal both of which are excellent examples of blogging. I especially enjoy The Alternative Hymnal for its suggestions on ways songs that wouldn't normally feature in church can be used.

    Its nice to meet fellow bloggers. I didn't mention it a couple of weeks ago but I also meet Melbourne blogger, Nathan from My Virtual Faith. We ended up chatting for hours at a local cafe - great guy. His blog has been quiet lately while he rethinks the site and develops some new excellent online resources.

    Too Busy for 'Presence'

    19 July, 2004 9:06 AM

    Thanks for the well wishers and encouragement that people left in the last post. I appreciate your kind words.

    Last night I spoke at the church my brother and sister-in-law work at (it does run in the family). It was a good night. I spoke about Mission using the 4 P's of mission material that I have previously posted about here.

    Last week I was speaking to someone about this approach to mission and they told me that it was an 'interesting' way to look at it, but that they just didn't have time to develop 'presence' with any new people. They said that they were in so many relationships with people that they couldn't possibly commit to any more. We unpacked the relationships that they were in and soon found that every single one of them was with other believers. The other reason they were so busy was that they were so heavily involved in church activities (2 services a week, one bible study, worship team practice, occasional preaching duties, prayer meetings, deacon's meetings and a men's breakfast once a month).

    They simply didn't have time for mission because they were so busy in deep relationships with Christians and doing Church activities.

    Something has to give doesn't it? Either we excuse ourselves from the great commission or we perhaps need to make some room in our lives to actually respond to it and develop significant relationships with those who do not belong to our communities.

    AFL Premiers

    18 July, 2004 2:11 PM


    Update - Congratulations to Port Adelaide for beating Brisbane in the AFL Grand final. Port Power beat the Lions 17.11 (113) to 10.13 (73).

    Who will win the AFL Premiers in 2004? Will Brisbane be premiers for the forth year running or will Port Adelaide overcome their 'chokers' reputation and take it out. Essendon, Geelong, Sydney and St Kilda all will want a go at the title of AFL Premiers also so it should be a fascinating finals series culminating in the Grand Final on 25 September.

    While we wait for the 2004 AFL Grand Final Premiers to be crowned here are some online AFL resources to keep you occupied:
    - Official Website for the AFL - the web home of the Australian Football League (AFL). The site has all the 2004 official AFL news, results, ladders, AFL merchandise etc.
    - The Age - AFL Coverage - All the latest AFL news, Winners, Results, Opinion, Pictures and Information.
    - Herald Sun - AFL Coverage - AFL News, Results, Winners, Opinion, Predictions, Tips and Info
    - Gunners AFL 2004 - This AFL enthusiast has a page dedicated to his favorite AFL club - the Collingwood football club. It's a useful site - pity about the team he follows though - they won't be premiers this year.
    - Sportsbet - AFL Grand final winners Odds page - all the odds of those teams still in the race to be winners of the AFL Grand Final.
    - Centrebet - AFL Grand final winners Odd another page full of AFL Grand final news and odds.
    - Australia Post - AFL 2004 Football Stamps - stamps to commemorate the 2004 AFL Season.
    - Aussie Rules for Beginners
    - The Rules of Aussie Rules

    Grand final tickets cause headaches for distributors - 'New anti-scalping laws introduced by the Victorian Government have been blamed for problems associated with the distribution of AFL grand final tickets.

    Ticketmaster spokesperson Maria O'Connor said the distributor could only sell 2004 grand final tickets to AFL members at 14 outlets across the state, because they were a different size to those sold in previous seasons. She said the new laws required Ticketmaster to print a no-scalping warning on the tickets.' Read More

    1300 Today!

    17 July, 2004 12:11 PM

    The Livingroom blog is 1300 old posts today. What a journey it has been since our humble beginnings way back on 27 November 2002.

    I'm not sure what I was expecting from blogging back then. All I was really doing was trying to have a place where I could record the journey of our little church and try to build some community with those that would join it.

    How things change. Most of my community are not into the web and the site soon took a number of different twists and turns in terms of topics, exposure and offshoot blogs.

    Its been a great journey - I've learnt so much and 'met' some amazing people. I'd especially like to honor and thank two people who have been very patient and generous to me in terms of blogging. Rachel and Regan Cunliffe have been instrumental in me getting to the 1300 post mark. For starters at a very practical level Regan hosts all of my sites - his rates are excellent and service very personal and above and beyond the call. Every good bit of design that you see on this site is Rachel's work (the bad bits are how I mangled it).

    Their service to me goes beyond that though - they've become more than suppliers of bandwidth and design and become suppliers of support, inspiration and friendship. For that I'm grateful. I'm excited that we're able to work together on blogging projects and that we have an excuse in this to keep visiting each other, talking on the phone and growing a mateship across the waters between our island homes.

    Now, let me get on with the next 1300 posts.

    Link Up?

    17 July, 2004 11:17 AM

    If anyone out there wants to help a couple of blogs we're working on climb the rankings in search engines we'd sure appreciate your help with any links you might like to offer to the sites. They are:

    Olympics

    and

    Australian Idol

    If you feel so moved and would like to link to either or both (using the words Olympics and Australian Idol) on your blogroll, in a post, on a footer, in your links page....where ever....that would sure help us heaps.

    By the Way, we're still looking for bloggers to join in our Olympics Group blog - it is a good way to expose your blog to thousands of readers of the next 6 weeks. Shoot me an email if you'd like to contribute a post or two every day or so.

    Overbloggers

    16 July, 2004 1:34 PM

    Flying Space Monkey has bounced off my Underblog campaign (calling for nominations of underrated blogs) with his own Overblogger campaign where he's asking for nominations of 'overrated blogs'.

    He's got a little criticism to say the least - but its an interesting idea.

    Australian Idol 2 - 2004

    14 July, 2004 2:54 PM

    Keep up to date with season two of Australian Idol at Australian Idol Blog.

    Longer Term readers of this site will remember that around this time last year I started ' a series of posts on the Australian Idol show - it was mainly my opinion of the shows that I saw - reviews really.

    I was quite surprised and overwhelmed by the response to my posts - I was in the top few search results for 'Australian Idol' on Google and got a lot of traffic (thousands of visitors some days). The posts also got a lot of comments, some pretty full on and nasty ones, to the point where I ended up having to close comments on those posts for bandwidth and moderating reasons.

    Anyway - since that time my good cyber friends, Rachel and Regan, started up Idol Blog for the New Zealand Idol series. The story of what they achieved with the blog was quite remarkable. Both Rachel and Regan were regular features on radio and television, their blog was mentioned on an almost daily basis in newspapers and they ended up with over 5000 site members. Quite amazing.

    This season I'm not going to be posting here about Australian Idol again - but rather am partnering with idol blog in starting Australian Idol Blog.

    So if you're an Aussie wanting to follow the show - head over. Sign up as a member and contribute in forums, get the weekly newsletter on the show and keep up with the latest news. The show kicked off last night so we're still setting things up, but we hope it will be a fun and interactive site.

    What will the Australian Idol Results be who will be the winner? I'd tip Courtney, Casey, Anthony or Hayley as possible winners.

    Company

    14 July, 2004 1:17 AM

    Its been a really good couple of days. The weekend was a bit of a lonely one - most of my friends were away and with V out of the country I found myself at a bit of a loss as to what to do with myself.

    I managed to keep busy and productive over the weekend but was starving for some personal contact by the end of it. Luckily a new friend Richard, from the UK, has been in town for the last few days and I've had the pleasure of his company in our humble abode for the last two nights. Its been great to get to know him. We met a couple of weeks ago at the Forge intensive and strangely find ourselves on similar journeys in numerous respects of faith and ministry.

    Tonight was Livingroom - we read the book of Jonah and had an interesting discussion. It was good to have a bit of a back to basics night after a few more creative weeks and just get into some good solid bible study - especially an Old Testament study.

    Anyway - I'd better sleep. Its 1.20am and I have four Forge boys coming for breakfast in the morning early...

    DNA of Emerging Church

    12 July, 2004 8:38 AM

    There is a great interview of one of my mates, Mark Sayers, but another of my mates, Stephen Said, over at emergingchurch.info. Here is a snippet:

    'One of the questions often asked with risky endeavor's such as the one you have described, is one pertaining to control. How do people learn and grow? How do people worship? how do you keep people doctrinally in the ballpark?

    We centre everything we do around our DNA.

    DNA?

    TEMPT. TEMPT is an acronym. T is for "Together we follow", E is for "Engagement with Scripture", M is for "Mission", P is for "Passion for Jesus", and the T is for "Transformation". TEMPT is our control. We find that it plays the same role as DNA does in the human body, it shapes our identity.

    In practical terms?

    For us it is the old wells and fences. Instead of building fences keeping people in, we try and build wells in which people will be drawn to gather around. Young adults are leaving the church in droves in Australia, so we find that people who come are drawn to our DNA. We don't really have to try and control them. The great things is, because we focus on DNA rather than creating programs, is that the congregation will often shock you and start missional and discipleship ventures off their own bat, that we would never have had the imagination to develop ourselves. For example, I discovered that during Australian Idol, one of the groups were inviting their non Christian friends to mingle and chat over a BBQ whilst they watched Australian Idol together. This led to a whole host of evangelical opportunities. They knew the M is for missional. The funny thing is, we as leaders were the last to hear about it.'

    Creative Worship - Mapping Influence

    12 July, 2004 8:31 AM

    I love Steve Taylor's entry on blessed to be a faithful witness. What a creative way to help people get a grasp of an important message.

    'The theme of Sunday was blessed to be a faithful witness. The challenge is to move that head/heart knowledge to hands/feet/body action.

    As part of the response, I "drew" a street map on the floor, using white tape to mark the main streets of the east side of our city.

    People were given stars, and invited to place a star on the place in the city where they are blessed to be a witness. (This was mixed with communion and a song by Ben Harper, Blessed to be a witness, from his Diamonds in the Inside album.) It was an hands/feet/body way of praying.'

    The idea is great - the pictures of the results very cool - and the description of how much people got into it are even better.

    Alan on Liturgy

    11 July, 2004 7:39 PM

    Alan Creech has another good post asking the question - Why the Liturgy Helps?

    'I see it helping like this: you have a simple, organic, emerging faith community who wonders what to do. You have the church planter/leader/pastor of that community who has likely been trained (read: almost ruined) in a system that makes them the be all and end all of everything that goes on there. They must perform. They must get people to "come" to their thing. Then, they must keep them there by providing a rich worship experience and feeding them until they are fat little Christian piggies who can't move. There's a fair amount of pressure in something like that. "I've got to come up with something to talk about on Tuesday night!" "I've got to feed these people the Word!" "I have to come up with a system for discipleship!" AaaagghhHhhhhh!!! We be trippin'! One really practical way the liturgy can help is that it is a very basic structure that is simply there.'

    He goes on.... (but I'll let you read that yourself along with his Part 1

    At Livingroom we don't use liturgy on a regular (or even really a semi regular) basis. It isn't because I disagree with it or anything - but really to be honest I've hardly ever seen it used/modeled. Perhaps I need to go hang out with Alan and his crew. Having said that - the few times I've been involved in groups that have used liturgy I've found it to be a really refreshing and meaningful experience. Maybe its something to explore for the months ahead....after all I am trying to come up with something for Tuesday night!

    Stir Crazy

    11 July, 2004 1:34 PM

    I think I'm going a little stir crazy at the moment. I've been working really hard on getting the Olympics site up and running the past few days. I think I've been staring at the computer for way to long because this morning I was making my breakfast and I filled up my coffee cup with milk instead of boiling water and put boiling water all over my cereal.

    Olympic Games Events Results and Medal Winners

    9 July, 2004 6:27 PM

    Men's 50m Freestyle
    Men's 100m Freestyle
    Men's 200m Freestyle
    Men's 400m Freestyle
    Women's 800m Freestyle
    Men's 1500m Freestyle
    Women's 50m Freestyle
    Women's 100m Freestyle
    Women's 200m Freestyle
    Women's 400m Freestyle
    Men's 100m Backstroke
    Men's 200m Backstroke
    Women's 100m Backstroke
    Women's 200m Backstroke
    Men's 100m Breaststroke
    Men's 200m Breaststroke
    Women's 100m Breaststroke
    Women's 200m Breaststroke
    Men's 100m Butterfly
    Men's 200m Butterfly
    Women's 100m Butterfly
    Women's 200m Butterfly
    Men's 200m Individual Medley
    Men's 400m Individual Medley
    Women's 200m Individual Medley
    Women's 400m Individual Medley
    Men's 4 x 100m Freestyle Relay
    Men's 4 x 100m Medley Relay
    Men's 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay
    Women's 4 x 100m Freestyle Relay
    Women's 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay
    Women's 4 x 100m Medley Relay
    Men's Water Polo
    Women's Water Polo
    Men's 10m Platform
    Women's 10m Platform
    Men's 3m Springboard
    Women's 3m Springboard
    Men's Synchronised 10m Platform
    Women's Synchronised 10m Platform
    Men's Synchronised 3m Springboard
    Women's Synchronised 3m Springboard
    Synchronized Swimming Duet
    Men's Individual Archery
    Women's Individual Archery
    Men's Team Archery
    Women's Team Archery
    Men's 100m
    Women's 100m
    Men's 200m
    Men's 400m
    Men's 800m
    Men's 1500m
    Men's 5000m
    Men's 10000m
    Men's 110m Hurdles
    Men's 400m Hurdles
    Men's 3,000m Steeplechase
    Men's 4 x 100m Relay
    Men's 4 x 400m Relay
    Men's High Jump
    Men's Pole Vault
    Men's Long Jump
    Men's Triple Jump
    Men's Shot Put
    Men's Discus
    Men's Hammer
    Men's Javelin
    Men's Decathlon
    Men's Marathon
    Men's 20km Walk
    Men's 50km Road Walk
    Women's 200m
    Women's 400m
    Women's 800m
    Women's 1,500m
    Women's 5,000m
    Women's 10,000m
    Women's 100m Hurdles
    Women's 400m Hurdles
    Women's 4 x 100m Relay
    Women's 4 x 400m Relay
    Women's High Jump
    Women's Pole Vault
    Women's Long Jump
    Women's Triple Jump
    Women's Shot Put
    Women's Discus
    Women's Hammer
    Women's Javelin
    Women's Heptathlon
    Womans Marathon
    Womans 20km Road Walk
    Men's Badminton Singles
    Men's Badminton Doubles
    Women's Badminton Singles
    Women's Badminton Doubles
    Baseball
    Men's Basketball
    Women's Basketball
    Featherweight (57kg)
    Light flyweight (48kg)
    Flyweight (51kg)
    Bantamweight (54kg)
    Lightweight (60kg)
    Light welterweight (64kg)
    Welterweight (69kg)
    Middleweight (75kg)
    Light heavyweight (81kg)
    Heavyweight (91kg)
    Super heavyweight (+91kg)
    Men's K1 1000m
    Men's C1 1,000m
    Men's K2 1,000m
    Men's K4 1,000m
    Men's K1 500m
    Men's C1 500m
    Women's K1 500m
    Men's K2 500m
    Men's C2 500m
    Women's K2 500m
    Men's K4 500m
    Men's C2 1,000m
    Women's K4 500m
    Men's Individual Time Trial
    Women's Individual Time Trial
    Men's Individual Road Race
    Women's Individual Road Race
    Men's 1km Individual Time Trial
    Women's 500m Individual Time Trial
    Men's Sprint
    Women's Sprint
    Men's Individual Pursuit
    Women's Individual Pursuit
    Men's Team Pursuit
    Men's Point Race
    Women's Point Race
    Men's Madison
    Men's Keirin
    Men's Team Sprint
    Men's Cross Country
    Women's Cross Country
    Individual Dressage
    Team Dressage
    Individual Jumping
    Team Jumping
    Individual Eventing
    Team Eventing
    Men's Foil
    Women's Foil
    Men's Epee
    Women's Epee
    Men's Sabre
    Women's Sabre
    Men's Football
    Women's Football
    Women's Beam
    Women's Floor Exercises
    Women's Individual All-Round
    Women's Team Competition
    Women's Uneven Bars
    Women's Vault
    Men's Floor Exercises
    Men's Horizontal Bar
    Men's Individual All-Round
    Men's Parallel Bars
    Men's Pommel Horse
    Men's Rings
    Men's Team Competition
    Men's Vault
    Women's Individual Rhythmic All-Round
    Women's Group Rhythmic All-Round
    Men's Trampoline
    Women's Trampoline
    Women's Handball
    Men's Handball
    Men's Hockey
    Women's Hockey
    Men's Pentathlon
    Women's Pentathlon
    Men's Single Sculls
    Men's Double Sculls
    Men's Lightweight Double Sculls
    Men's Quadruple Sculls
    Men's Pair
    Men's Four
    Men's Lightweight Four
    Men's Eight with Coxswain
    Women's Single Sculls
    Women's Double Sculls
    Women's Lightweight Double Sculls
    Women's Quadruple Sculls
    Women's Pair
    Women's Eight with Coxswain
    Men's Mistral
    Women's Mistral
    Women's Single Handed Dinghy
    Men's Single Handed Dinghy
    Open Single Handed Dinghy
    Men's Double Handed Dinghy
    Women's Double Handed Dinghy
    Open Double Handed Dinghy
    Open Multihull
    Men's Keelboat
    Women's Keelboat
    Women's 10m Air pistol
    Women's 10m Air Rifle
    Women's 25m Pistol
    Women's 50m Rifle 3 Positions
    Women's Double Trap
    Women's Skeet
    Women's Trap
    Men's 10m Air Pistol
    Men's 10m Rifle
    Men's 10m Running Target
    Men's 25m Rapid Fire Pistol
    Men's 50m Pistol
    Men's 50m Rifle 3 Positions
    Men's 50m Rifle Prone
    Men's Double Trap
    Men's Skeet
    Men's Trap
    Women's Softball
    Men's Singles Table Tennis
    Men's Doubles Table Tennis
    Women's Singles Table Tennis
    Women's Doubles Table Tennis
    Men's Singles
    Men's Doubles
    Women's Singles
    Women's Doubles
    Men's Triathlon
    Women's Triathlon
    Men's Volleyball
    Women's Volleyball
    Men's Beach Volleyball
    Women's Beach Volleyball
    Men's 55kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 60kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 66kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 74kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 84kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 96kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 120kg Greco-Roman
    Men's 55kg Freestyle
    Men's 60kg Freestyle
    Men's 66kg Freestyle
    Men's 74kg Freestyle
    Men's 84kg Freestyle
    Men's 96kg Freestyle
    Men's 120kg Freestyle
    Women's 48kg Freestyle
    Women's 55kg Freestyle
    Women's 63kg Freestyle
    Women's 72kg Freestyle
    Women's 48kg
    Men's 56kg
    Women's 53kg
    Men's 62kg
    Women's 58kg
    Men's 69kg
    Women's 63kg
    Men's 77kg
    Women's 69kg
    Women's 75kg
    Men's 85kg
    Woman's +75kg
    Men's 94kg
    Men's 105kg
    Men's +105kg
    Women's Under 49kg
    Men's Under 58kg
    Women's Under 57kg
    Men's Under 68kg
    Women's Under 67kg
    Men's Under 80kg
    Women's Over 67kg
    Men's Over 80kg
    Men's -60kg
    Women's -48kg
    Men's -66kg
    Women's -52kg
    Men's -73kg
    Women's -57kg
    Men's -81kg
    Women's -63kg
    Men's -90kg
    Women's -70kg
    Men's -100kg
    Women's -78kg
    Men's +100kg
    Women's +78kg

    The AFL Grand Final Winner

    8 July, 2004 2:08 PM


    Congratulations to Port Adelaide for beating Brisbane in the AFL Grand final. Port Power beat the Lions 17.11 (113) to 10.13 (73).

    Who will win the AFL Grand Final in 2004? Will Brisbane be winners for the forth year running or will Port Adelaide overcome their 'chokers' reputation and take it out. Essendon, Geelong, Sydney and St Kilda all will want a go at the title of AFL Premiers also so it should be a fascinating finals series culminating in the Grand Final on 25 September.

    While we wait for the 2004 AFL Grand Final Results and Winners here are some online AFL resources to keep you occupied:
    - Official Website for the AFL - the web home of the Australian Football League (AFL). The site has all the 2004 official AFL news, results, ladders, AFL merchandise etc.
    - The Age - AFL Coverage - All the latest AFL news, Winners, Results, Opinion, Pictures and Information.
    - Herald Sun - AFL Coverage - AFL News, Results, Winners, Opinion, Predictions, Tips and Info
    - Gunners AFL 2004 - This AFL enthusiast has a page dedicated to his favorite AFL club - the Collingwood football club. It's a useful site - pity about the team he follows though.
    - Sportsbet - AFL Grand final winners Odds page - all the odds of those teams still in the race to be winners of the AFL Grand Final.
    - Centrebet - AFL Grand final winners Odd another page full of AFL Grand final news and odds.
    - Australia Post - AFL 2004 Football Stamps - stamps to commemorate the 2004 AFL Season.
    - Aussie Rules for Beginners
    - The Rules of Aussie Rules

    Grand final tickets cause headaches for distributors - 'New anti-scalping laws introduced by the Victorian Government have been blamed for problems associated with the distribution of AFL grand final tickets.

    Ticketmaster spokesperson Maria O'Connor said the distributor could only sell 2004 grand final tickets to AFL members at 14 outlets across the state, because they were a different size to those sold in previous seasons. She said the new laws required Ticketmaster to print a no-scalping warning on the tickets.' Read More

    Melbourne Emerging Church Gathering

    8 July, 2004 10:48 AM

    Had a good time last night gathering with a small group of Melbourne Emerging Church/Alt Worship guys. Many of you will know of Mark Pierson (pastor of Cityside in NZ, co-author of the Prodigal Project) and that he has taken on a role here in Melbourne working with Urban Seed. He's still in transition between NZ and here but it was great to meet him and have conversation with the group that assembled which included fellow bloggers Eddie and Luke.

    There are some exciting things happening in Melbourne at the moment, I get the feeling that there is some real momentum building and that God is doing something quite interesting among many around our city in terms of mission, worship and forms of church.

    Everyday Spirituality Tour III

    7 July, 2004 11:56 AM

    I really enjoyed Living Room last night. We were a smaller group than normal with people overseas and interstate but it was still quality stuff. We did another Everyday Spirituality Tour of one of our core group's ('C2' -we have a number of 'C's') lives. (see here for the first one we did).

    We had dinner at her place, then walked up the street to a cafe she regularly visits with friends. Then we jumped into her car and she took us on a tour of her life. We saw a centre that she volunteers at, her work place, the hospital she was born at, numerous houses of friends etc. We heard about her daily routine, the things she's passionate about, some of her growing up history, a little about her family and friends.

    It was amazing the places that our conversation went as we put her on centre stage and asked questions of her life. We saw a whole different side of someone we've 'done church with' for a number of months now - it was really special.

    I can't wait until the next one we do in a month's time.

    National Toilet Map

    7 July, 2004 9:24 AM

    I've often wanted one of these - now I just need to figure out a way to download it into my brain - or at least my PDA.

    Australian National Public Toilet Map

    'Locating public toilet facilities in Australian cities, towns, rural areas, and along major travel routes.'

    Athens Olympic Stadium Construction Picture

    6 July, 2004 1:53 PM

    Been wondering about how the Athens Olympic Games Construction is progressing? I just found a great satellite image of the Olympic Main Stadium taken a couple of weeks ago that gives an interesting perspective.

    Talking About Money

    6 July, 2004 8:58 AM

    Michelle over at Serenity Dawn had one of those blogging frenzy days yesterday when she posted five posts in just a few hours.

    One that caught my eye was Where's your focus? where she talks about 'money'.

    'What would people say if I sold everything, if I gave it all away to the poor? That I was being stupid not to make a plan and a future for my son? That I am naieve, living with my head in the clouds, not making sense?

    Do I REALLY, truly trust God to supply my needs if giving it all up is what He'd require of me?

    Paying lipservice to Christianity, being good and nice and kind - that's easy. But REALLY living what Jesus taught. That's just plain difficult. It goes against all safe and logical action, it recognizes the temporary status of this planet and another kingdom not of this world, it defies worldly economics.'

    I left my long comments there.

    Rhythmic Mission

    5 July, 2004 1:45 PM

    Random Daily Coincidences or Divine Opportunities? Can the mundane daily rhythm of life actually be the key to effective mission?

    It has been two days since V left on her overseas trip and already my daily routine has changed! Normally my day starts at around 7.30am with V getting up for work - a process that usually involves a hair dryer in our bedroom. The last two mornings have seen me awake at 9.30am. I think I might have to start using my alarm clock or I could get quite slothful.

    It is interesting how our daily rhythms align with those around us. When I was a single guy my day generally started at 8.30am - 9.30am and would end at around 1.00am - 2.00am. Obviously that had to change a little.

    I've always been fascinated with daily rhythms - especially lately when thinking about mission. I have a growing theory that one of the most helpful ways of being effective in mission is to become a part of the rhythms of our culture and the individuals around us. Even just to be aware of our own daily routine and where it intersects with others is a powerful thing.

    What people do you see at the same time every day? The lady at the bus stop each morning, the work college who always just happens to be at the coffee machine when you are, the family who is at the park each Saturday when you are their with yours or the neighbor who takes his dog for a walk each night as you're coming home from work.

    Perhaps it is time that we saw these encounters as something more than a quirky random coincidence but rather as a divine opportunity to journey beside another.

    A few weeks ago I wrote about the 4 P's of Mission. The first of these was Proximity - or putting ourselves in places where we will 'bump into' and interact with our world and those around us - the second was 'Presence - or the allowing of a relationship to come out of the proximity we have with others.

    It strikes me that as followers of Jesus we all have proximity with others in very natural and even unintentional ways. My daily rhythm puts me into proximity with an incredible amount of people. From the man who sells me milk at the corner store, to my landlady who I bump into at the front door through to the waitress that serves me a coffee each morning.

    Where I think things tend to break down for many of us is that we do not allow our Proximity with those around us naturally develop into Presence. For whatever reason we're content to allow people to remain 'those people we see' and don't find ways to initiate something a deeper.

    Maybe its fear that stops us in our tracks, perhaps its laziness or business or that we are so numbed by our mundane daily existence that we don't have eyes to see what is staring us in the face. Someone last week told me that they were too busy doing ministry to have time for any more relationships.

    Often I think we build mission up to be a bigger deal than it is. By that I don't mean we make it more important than it is, but rather that we make it seem harder than it actually is. We develop strategies and training seminars on how to do evangelism - and we often feel so much guilt if we 'fail' to see the results we expect.

    Perhaps we need to chill out a little and take a fresh look at mission. Maybe it is time to stop segmenting it from the rest of our lives and become aware of the natural opportunities that we have right in front of us every day to connect with those around us. Could it be time to let go of the strategies and techniques and actually build relationships with people. In doing so we may just spot that God is already at work in the life of those we bump into and find ways to join him in the work that he's already doing there.

    On 'Christian' Blogs

    3 July, 2004 7:38 PM

    In the comments to my last post where I said:

    'To be honest I get a bit turned off by blogs that are 'overtly Christian' too'

    Felix responded by asking why I wrote that. I thought I should explain as it is a comment that two people have already emailed to ask about. Thanks to those who have asked for clarification and expressed concern at my statement. Let me attempt a response.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have used the terms 'turned off' or 'overtly Christian' - I was just using Fat Buddha's quote as a basis for what I was saying.

    Rather if I was to put it into my own words I would say that I personally find that SOME 'Christian' Blogs a tad dull and one dimensional.

    I'll probably get in trouble for saying that but I just don't read many blogs that post only about faith issues these days. Maybe its a stage I'm going through but I guess I get enough 'Christian' input from other mediums and from life in general.

    I like to read blogs that are more diverse in their subject matter - that don't just talk about the spiritual life of their owner or issues of theology or spirituality. Its not that I never read such stuff, but rather I like to see what else a blogger is interested in.

    In my 32 years of life I've met a lot of Christians whose whole life seems wrapped up in their Christianity. Whilst I see some good in this (who I am is very linked to my faith in Christ) it also worries me. It is possible to go through life without really interacting with the world one lives in and living in something of a holy enclave. I think we're called to engage with our world and not isolate ourselves from it.

    Having said this I am not against blogs that choose to only write on Christian issues - I think there is a place for such focused writing on blogs (similarly to the place for 'Christian' books. I respect bloggers who choose to take this approach - however blogging for me is not about this. It is an extension of a variety of areas in my life (including spirituality and my church) and therefore I tend to be drawn to other blogs that are like this. I still read a variety of Christian Blogs on a daily basis but they tend to be one's that pick up a variety of topics and themes such as Tall Skinny Kiwi, Jonny Baker, Bloggedy Blog, Jordon Cooper, Cre8d, Backyard Missionaries, Bene Diction, Neurotribe, Flying Blue Sky and Serenity Dawn (to name just a few).

    I hope that clarifies things a little.

    Sexy House Churches

    3 July, 2004 3:57 PM

    Tall Skinny Kiwi has a great post - House Churches have no Sex Appeal.

    I particularly like some of his 'gripes' with house churches and thought I'd add a few of my own comments under each of his headings. (The headings and quotes are his, the rest are my ramblings).

    1. Name is Misleading - Andrew writes - 'The label needs to change from house church to something that better describes it.' I agree completely for many reasons but will outline two here.

    Firstly many of the emerging missional churches and communities I know of do not meet in homes. They have very similar ethos, DNA and practices to each other (including many that meet in homes) but meet in cafes, galleries, parks, work places and pubs. They are not 'house churches' but they are 'the same' as many house churches in virtually every other respect.

    Secondly even for churches that do meet in homes I wonder if such a label or name can actually limit the scope of the group. At Livingroom we meet for our main gathering in a different home each week, but we're also meeting weekly in local cafes in 'micro groups'. That is not to mention the other 97% of our weekly time - the time when, as individuals, we are involved in schools, universities, hospitals, sporting clubs, neighborhoods. My idea of church is that it doesn't cease to be church when we are not gathering together - but in fact is a 24/7 thing. Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I worry that we're setting the tone for a segmented understanding of faith and church if we label our churches by the places we meet in when we gather. That is why I more frequently call us a 'missional community' than a house church - it sets the tone in a completely different direction

    2. Authentication is Delayed - Andrew writes that 'House churches are not yet recognised by the mainstream.' In some respects I see this as changing here in Australia. Whilst they are still no where near as prominent I'm hearing them talked about a lot more. This is partly because of the types of people I hang around with - but its also happening more and more in established churches and denominations. In my state, Victoria, I know of at least three denominations that are seriously talking about establishing new types of churches (many of which are meeting in homes - but other types also). They are not only talking about it but putting resources into training, planting and are resourcing such groups. By no means are we there yet - but I sense that many of our denominations leaders are recognizing the gloomy reality that unless we take some new directions that the future of the church is not bright.

    3. Orientation is Backwards - Andrews makes the brilliant observation that 'The focus needs to change from "our house" to "their house" '. I couldn't agree more. The reputation of house churches in Australia is that they tend to be rather insular in the way they operate. One of the critiques that I constantly hear of them is their lack of missional focus. Of course there will be exceptions to this generalization - but the critiques come from both within and outside the movement. Of course it should also be said that this same critique can be equally be given to all forms of church including traditional and contemporary models.

    I could (and do) write about this for hours. Jesus commanded his disciples to 'Go' into all the world - not to congregate in their holy huddles and expect the world to come to them. All churches, including some of the emerging forms need to consider how they might work on this.

    4. Support is Minimal - Andrew writes - 'We might be 5 years away from seeing a complete ecosystem of organic ministries that work together to enable a healthy, reproducing, movement of house churches.'

    Once again Andrew is spot on although I'm happy to report that what I'm seeing going on in this part of the world shows some positive movement towards an integrated networked group of emerging churches. I'm very intentional about bumping into other emerging church leaders and communities on a regular basis. I'm not sure how formal the structures and networks between us will ever be - however they are growing. I'm especially excited to see local gatherings of similarly minded communities who are exploring ways to work together and build relationships. This is an important task that needs to be high on our list of priorities.

    Having said this one of the things I am enjoying most about this new way of doing church (new for me) is the lack of structure and freedom to form new support networks. I love that I am free to form tight relationships with people from numerous denominations, other community groups and even (dare I say it) groups from other faiths. One of the temptations that will no doubt emerge along with these new communities is become institutions - hopefully this day will be in the far distant future - if at all.

    5. Integration is Absent - Andrew writes - 'House Church Utopia is still painted as being pure and contaminant-free. As if you leave one model of church and adopt another with no reference to what you came out of. '

    I haven't yet given a lot of thought to this last 'gripe' of Andrew's. I might need to do so in order to really hear what he's saying. If it is that we need to allow individuals who join house churches freedom to interact with and bring along some of their baggage from established churches then I'm cool with that. It is impossible to start a church in a vacuum without considering where we have been. We spent quite a bit of time when we first started telling our stories and sharing our past experience of life, faith and church - on reflection I think this was a very useful exercise and something we've continued to do as new people join us. Whilst some of what we do is possibly a reaction against some of our negative experiences of church I would also say that most of what we do is a reflection of the positive experiences. Also I encourage everyone in the group to retain their past relationships with established churches and individuals in them - many of us do 'go back' from time to time - I feel this has been a positive thing not only for us but the churches where we have been previously involved.

    So there we have it - a few scattered thoughts from me in response to some much better ones from Andrew. What do you think? Leave yours in comments below if you feel moved to do so...

    Fat Buddha on The Living Room

    3 July, 2004 12:44 PM

    From The Whole Wide World of Fat Buddha

    'I keep finding my way back to The Living Room. Instinctively, I don't like it, because it is so overtly Christian, but bugger me, it has some good stuff on it, especially for bloggers.'

    Thanks Fat Buddha - I try and mix it up so that there is something for everyone. To be honest I get a bit turned off by blogs that are 'overtly Christian' too (but don't tell anyone).

    Bachelor Darren

    3 July, 2004 12:33 PM

    Well as of 5pm this afternoon you can refer to me as 'Bachelor Darren'.

    No its nothing drastic, V has not finally thrown in the towel in a fit of jealous rage over my obsessive blogging.... She's actually heading overseas for 3 weeks as a companion to her generous Mum. Its a great opportunity and whilst I'm going to miss her heaps part of me feels like I'm going on holidays with her.

    So anyway - the next three weeks will be kind of fun despite the cold patch in the bed, the gourmet cooking and the lattes together down at the cafe. I thought a few weeks ago it might be a bit of a quiet few weeks - but looking at my diary I'm actually going to be busier than normal with plenty of people to catch up with.

    One of the funniest things about V going away is that despite her not quite getting this 'blogging thing' that I do - she's actually started her own little mini website where she'll be updating family and friends (its a private one...sorry) on what she is doing. It looks very much like a blog to me - but don't tell her that - might put her off! I've been trying to convince her to start a blog for ages - especially a food/recipes one - maybe after the trip I can convince her.

    Anyway - better get back to helping in the packing process.

    How to Be Creative

    2 July, 2004 4:20 PM

    gapingvoid writes -

    "So you want to be more creative, in art, in business, whatever. Here are some tips that have worked for me over the years:"

    The 12 tips they give are really interesting and well worth the read. I love creativity. I often say that if someone would pay me to come up with ideas and to be creative that I'd be in my dream job.

    Here are three of their tips that I like:

    "4. If your biz plan depends on you suddenly being "discovered" by some big shot, your plan will probably fail.

    Nobody suddenly discovers anything. Things are made slowly and in pain.

    5. You are responsible for your own experience.

    Nobody can tell you if what you're doing is good, meaningful or worthwhile. The more compelling the path, the more lonely it is.

    6. Everyone is born creative; everyone is given a box of crayons in kindergarten.

    Then when you hit puberty they take the crayons away and replace them with books on algebra etc. Being suddenly hit years later with the creative bug is just a wee voice telling you, "I’d like my crayons back, please.""

    Check out their other 9 excellent Tips

    Underbloggers: U - Z

    2 July, 2004 12:41 PM

    Here are the nominated Underbloggers starting with letters U to Z

    Wow - what a response we've had to the Celebrating the Underblogger 2004 project. For those of you who don't know about it yet, last night I invited blog readers and owners to nominate quality blogs that deserved more attention than they get. 12 hours later over 260 blog have already been nominated - eclipsing last year's 100 Underbloggers. This was largely due to one big link up and the ensuing generous links from many other bloggers. Thanks to all who have nominated and linked up so far - it is not too late to participate - nominate your favorite under bloggers here.

    (If you are an underblogger you might be interested in these Blog Tips)

    Due to the large response I will be breaking down the nominated Underbloggers into alphabetical sections - here are Underbloggers starting with the letters U to Z.

    Undercaffeinated | Underneath the Dogwood | Unlearning College | The Unmentionables | Uptown Girl | Venezuela News and Views | The View from the Foothills | View from the Pew | Vindication | Voice of a Veteran | Waistdog | Walter In Denver | Warblogging | War Liberal | Watersea's Ocean Bloggie | Where the Dolphins Play | where the hell was i | whichwayup.org | Whomping Willow | Who Tends the Fires | Why Are We Back In Iraq? | Wolves | Write Lightning | A Welsh View | WildfireJo | Winning Arguement | wired article | Words for My Enjoyment | The World According to Nick | The World Around You | The World Wide Rant | X-entertainment | X-Republic | XX | You Bitch | Yumatech | zealous.org | Zenpundit | Zone:38 | Zero Intelligence.Net | Zuky

    See the Complete Collection of Underbloggers: A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    The key now is to do some surfing of some of these quality blogs. This project is useless unless we check out some of these bloggers and link up to them ourselves. Lets help some of these underbloggers to get the attention they deserve.

    All care has been given to getting above details correct, however due to large numbers of bloggers nominated I have not been able to quality control links yet and have relied on the code submitted by nominators. I'm doing my best to get it right but feel free to email me with corrections.

    Underbloggers: R - T

    2 July, 2004 12:32 PM

    Here are the nominated Underbloggers starting with letters R to T

    Wow - what a response we've had to the Celebrating the Underblogger 2004 project. For those of you who don't know about it yet, last night I invited blog readers and owners to nominate quality blogs that deserved more attention than they get. 12 hours later over 260 blog have already been nominated - eclipsing last year's 100 Underbloggers. This was largely due to one big link up and the ensuing generous links from many other bloggers. Thanks to all who have nominated and linked up so far - it is not too late to participate - nominate your favorite under bloggers here.

    (If you are an underblogger you might be interested in these Blog Tips)

    Due to the large response I will be breaking down the nominated Underbloggers into alphabetical sections - here are Underbloggers starting with the letters R to T.

    Rabe Ramblings | The Rage Diaries: | ralf pergande | Rambling Rhodes | Random Acts of Reality | The Random Muse | Rankin' Rob | Rantburg | Ranting and Roaring | RantingProfs | The Razor | Reality Blogs | Rebecca Writes | Red Wheelbarrow | Reforming Project Management | Relapsed Catholic | Relatively Absolute | Read/Write Web | Redscape | Resplendent Mango | Rev. Dale Owen | Ranting Profs | Respectful of Otters | Responsible Nanotechnology | Roaches of the Intellect | Rhonda Elizabeth | Right Face | Robert Tagorda | Rofters | Rosenblog | The Rostra | The Rough Woodsman | Rox Populi | Rubberhose | The Rude Pundit | Safe Haven | Saintly Salmagundi | The SaltwaterPizza Blog | The Samurai Barber | Sarcasmo's Corner | The Sarcastic Journalist | Save me Now | Scattered Words | A Schoolyard Blog | Science Fiction Twin | Screw Flanders | secondhandrants.com | Seeking serenity | Serene Chaos | Seth Worley | Seldom Sober | Semantic Compositions | Shanktified! | Shark Blog | Sharleen Mondal | Sharp as a Marble | Shasta MacNasty | Shebmo | Sheila's Redheaded Ramblings | shameless self promotion | "...she's a flight risk." | Shing Blog on the Hill | Shot In The Dark | Showcase | Sibby Online | Side Salad | Simon World | Simple Games | Slaglerock's Slaughterhouse | Slice | Small.To | Smitten | The Smoking Room | Sofia Sideshow | Solomonia | Small Business Trends | Small.To | The Sneeze: | Snippets: Rob Stewarts Blog | Snooze Button Dreams | Sofia Sideshow | Something Old, Nothing New: | SoulSoup | South Dakota Politics | South End Grounds | South Park Pundit | Spark | Spartacus | The Special Project | Spot on | Star Banker | Steel White | Stereo Describes my Scenario | Stone | The Stop Shopping Monitor | The Superficial | Stupid Evil Bastard | Susan Dobscha | Susan Tharp | Sweet Madness II | Swing State Project | Talk Energy | TaoSecurity | TargetBlank | Tasty Manatees | The Tattooed Texan | The Terriorists | Tex the Pontificator | textually.org | Thief's Den | Thoughts of a Frumpy Professor | TimBerglund.com | Th'inkwell | The Talent Show | tequila mockingbird | Terrorism Unveiled | Theif's Den | theosebes | Therapy | Things to Act | A Tiny Revolution | This Liberal | Tild~ | Tomas Kohl | Tornarius | TraderMike.net | Trish Wilson's Blog | Truth Be Told | Trudy Wschuett | Trey Givens | True Grit | trying to grok | Two Dolla

    See the Complete Collection of Underbloggers: A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    The key now is to do some surfing of some of these quality blogs. This project is useless unless we check out some of these bloggers and link up to them ourselves. Lets help some of these underbloggers to get the attention they deserve.

    All care has been given to getting above details correct, however due to large numbers of bloggers nominated I have not been able to quality control links yet and have relied on the code submitted by nominators. I'm doing my best to get it right but feel free to email me with corrections.

    Underbloggers: M - Q

    2 July, 2004 12:26 PM

    Here are the nominated Underbloggers starting with letters M to Q

    Wow - what a response we've had to the Celebrating the Underblogger 2004 project. For those of you who don't know about it yet, last night I invited blog readers and owners to nominate quality blogs that deserved more attention than they get. 12 hours later over 260 blog have already been nominated - eclipsing last year's 100 Underbloggers. This was largely due to one big link up and the ensuing generous links from many other bloggers. Thanks to all who have nominated and linked up so far - it is not too late to participate - nominate your favorite under bloggers here.

    (If you are an underblogger you might be interested in these Blog Tips)

    Due to the large response I will be breaking down the nominated Underbloggers into alphabetical sections - here are Underbloggers starting with the letters M to Q.

    Madanthony.org | mad adventures of a straight boy living in a gay world | Maggi Dawn | Making Light | Management by Baseball | Man of Lettuce | Marc Cooper | Marcus Slease: | Marn's Big Adventure | MartiniPundit | Master of None | Matt Presidential Blog | Matt's Internet Extravaganza | Meaty Fly | Medic Mom | Medienkritik | Michael J Totten | Michael Main | the mighty geek | Miniluv | Minipundit | The Moderate Voice | Mommy Lemur | The Monkey Cage | The Mont-Sterreport | Moogaloo | Moore Thoughts | monkeytales in sydney | MrHappySad | Mr. Minority | Mr Pseudopsalms | Ms Musings | MuD and PhuD | The Mulatto Advocate | Murdoc Online | Musings of the Goddess Crow | My Pet Jawa | Mysterium Tremendum | Nancy Nall: | Nattering Nabob | neon article (german) | NeoTheo(b)log | neotope | NeoUltraCentrist | New Blog Showcase | New Covenant | NewsAmuse | Newsfeed | The Nomad Tavern | Nonsensical Musings | A Note To Myself | Nude Highway Driving | The Nudik File | Nykola | Obernews | Oblation | Octopus Dropkick | Olympics Blog | One Good Thing | One Hand Clapping | One Hundred Or So Ways To Get An Ulcer | Open Book | Open Wide | Outside the Beltway | Palace of Regan | Paradox | Pesky Apostrophe | PFBLOG.com - My Personal Finance Journey | PBG's Path |pause. rewind. erase. | Pen-elayne On The Web (Elayne Riggs) | The People's Republic of Seabrook | Pengwen | Pennmans Lair | Pennywit | perfect.co.uk | The Pervert Club | Peter Fallow | Phlegma | PhotographyBLOG | Pinko Feminist Hellcat | The Player's Journal | Political Theory Daily Review | poons | Positive Stories | Pranagraphy | Press Action | profundities | Prometheus Unleashed | Protein Wisdom | Psych Watch | Physics... | Polemic Propaganda | Post-Modern Pilgrim | Powerline | Precinct 333 | Procheinamy | Pseudopsalms | pstupidonymous | Pursed Lips | Quibbles 'n Bits | Quiet Reverie | Quiller Thoughts

    See the Complete Collection of Underbloggers: A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    The key now is to do some surfing of some of these quality blogs. This project is useless unless we check out some of these bloggers and link up to them ourselves. Lets help some of these underbloggers to get the attention they deserve.

    All care has been given to getting above details correct, however due to large numbers of bloggers nominated I have not been able to quality control links yet and have relied on the code submitted by nominators. I'm doing my best to get it right but feel free to email me with corrections.

    Underbloggers: I - L

    2 July, 2004 12:21 PM

    Here are the nominated Underbloggers starting with letters I to L

    Wow - what a response we've had to the Celebrating the Underblogger 2004 project. For those of you who don't know about it yet, last night I invited blog readers and owners to nominate quality blogs that deserved more attention than they get. 12 hours later over 260 blog have already been nominated - eclipsing last year's 100 Underbloggers. This was largely due to one big link up and the ensuing generous links from many other bloggers. Thanks to all who have nominated and linked up so far - it is not too late to participate - nominate your favorite under bloggers here.

    (If you are an underblogger you might be interested in these Blog Tips)

    Due to the large response I will be breaking down the nominated Underbloggers into alphabetical sections - here are Underbloggers starting with the letters I to L.

    i am what i am">I am What I am | Iddybud | IMAO | Imaginary Conversations | IBOM: The Incoherent Babblings of Me | Incogblogo | Incoming Signals | INDC Journal | Instapunk | Ipecac | Iraq the Model | The Iron Blog | Irreconcileble Musings | In the Fight | Irritation Station | Israellycool | JaBbA's Hut | Jack's Personal Growth Chart | Jay Pinkerton's blog | Joan Jacobs | Jodi | The Joy of Knitting | Joe. My. God. | http://www.joeham.com/ | Join Cross | Julie Anne Fidler | Just Above Sunset | Karmalised | Kartooner | Kempa.com | The Key Monk | The King Of Fools | The Kirk Report | Kleffmanstyle | Knowledge Problem | Kris Heding | Kudzu | reflections - Just My Opinion | La Shawn Barber's Corner | The Last Man Dancing | La Vita Nuova | Law Meme | Lawrence of Cyberia | Leah Guildenstern | The Legal Reader | Left Coast East | Left Is Right | Lenny the Gardener | Le Sabot Post-Moderne | Lethal Thought | Letters from Babylon | Liberty Blog | Liberty Dad | Life in the Pink | Life Being Beautiful | Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness | Literal-Minded | Law Meme | Life as a Rock and Roll Wife | The Limitless | Lincoln & Liberty | the llamabutchers | The Lonewacko Blog | Losing the Cow | Lucy's Island

    See the Complete Collection of Underbloggers: A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    The key now is to do some surfing of some of these quality blogs. This project is useless unless we check out some of these bloggers and link up to them ourselves. Lets help some of these underbloggers to get the attention they deserve.

    All care has been given to getting above details correct, however due to large numbers of bloggers nominated I have not been able to quality control links yet and have relied on the code submitted by nominators. I'm doing my best to get it right but feel free to email me with corrections.

    Underbloggers: D - H

    2 July, 2004 12:16 PM

    Here are the nominated Underbloggers starting with letters D to H

    Wow - what a response we've had to the Celebrating the Underblogger 2004 project. For those of you who don't know about it yet, last night I invited blog readers and owners to nominate quality blogs that deserved more attention than they get. 12 hours later over 260 blog have already been nominated - eclipsing last year's 100 Underbloggers. This was largely due to one big link up and the ensuing generous links from many other bloggers. Thanks to all who have nominated and linked up so far - it is not too late to participate - nominate your favorite under bloggers here.

    (If you are an underblogger you might be interested in these Blog Tips)

    Due to the large response I will be breaking down the nominated Underbloggers into alphabetical sections - here are Underbloggers starting with the letters D to H.

    Daddy make a picture | The Daily Shower | Dakota Feinstein's Blog | Damnum Absuque Injuria | The Dane | DANEgerus Weblog | Davenetics | David Kilpatrick | The Dawn Patrol | Dawn Treader | Day By Day | Deep Soil | Defective Yeti | Desert Light Journal | Desert Pastor | deviant | DFMoore | Diary of the Food Whore | Different, just like everybody else | The Dignified Rant | Dimmy Karras | Diotima | Dispatches From the Culture Wars | DiVERSiONZ | DIYPoliticsBlogdrive | Dizzy Girl | Doc Rampage | Dog Snot Diaries | DON'T BE DUMB! | Donutbuzz | Drunken Monkey Style Blogging | Down to the Piraeus | Duo | Echidne of the Snakes: | Eduwonk | Eidos | Electric Commentary | Emigre with a Digital Cluebat | Ephus | Equivocal Catharsis | esquire article | The Eternal Golden Braid | ESR's Musings | The Evangelical Outpost | Everyday Stranger | Every Day Thoughts Collected | Eve Tushnet | Exit Stage Left | Ex Nihilo | Eternal Recurrence | Exultate Justi | Faith Gambler | Far From Perfect: The Life of a Paramedic | Fark | Farm Accident Digest | fat eye for the skinny guy | Feces Flinging Monkey | Feeding Change | Fifteen Minutes | The Fire Ant Gazette | The Flying Space Monkey Chronicles | Floyd the Chimp | Follow That Hippo | Food Basics | Food for Fish | Fool's Blog | The Forest For The Trees | Forever Geek | Four Corners | Fraters Libertas | Freakgirl: | Freedom Blog | Free Market Fairy Tales | Freespace | Freespeech | Free Thoughts on Iran | Fringe Blog | From the Marble Bar | Fuki Blog | Funkalicious | The Galloping Consumption | Geek Empire | Geek Press | Geek With A .45 | Ghost of a Flea | Gleeful Extremist | The God Blog | Godfollower | Gomi no Sensei | Good Blimey | The Gray Monk | graniteghost | Greater Nomadic Council | The Greatest Jeneration | The Grumpy 'Old' Man | Gulch | Guru's Life Watch | Gwen | Half-Bakered | Hanging Out with the Duchess | A Healthy Fear of Botulism | HipperCritical | The Hobbesian Conservative | Hoffmania | Hoshaw | How Appealing | Hud's Blog-O-Rama:

    See the Complete Collection of Underbloggers: A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    The key now is to do some surfing of some of these quality blogs. This project is useless unless we check out some of these bloggers and link up to them ourselves. Lets help some of these underbloggers to get the attention they deserve.

    All care has been given to getting above details correct, however due to large numbers of bloggers nominated I have not been able to quality control links yet and have relied on the code submitted by nominators. I'm doing my best to get it right but feel free to email me with corrections.

    Underbloggers: A - C

    2 July, 2004 12:07 PM

    Wow - what a response we've had to the Celebrating the Underblogger 2004 project. For those of you who don't know about it yet, last night I invited blog readers and owners to nominate quality blogs that deserved more attention than they get. 12 hours later over 260 blog have already been nominated - eclipsing last year's 100 Underbloggers. This was largely due to one big link up and the ensuing generous links from many other bloggers. Thanks to all who have nominated and linked up so far - it is not too late to participate - nominate your favorite under bloggers here.

    (If you are an underblogger you might be interested in these Blog Tips)

    Due to the large response I will be breaking down the nominated Underbloggers into alphabetical sections - here are Underbloggers starting with the letters A to C.

    The Abyss | Ace of Spades | AckAckAck | Adam Cleaveland | Adiemantus | Ad Limina Apostolorum | Adventures in Troubleshooting | After Abortion | Against The Grain | Agnosticism/Atheism | Alice In Texas | A Little Ardvark Never Hurt Anyone | Allah | All Things Christie.com | All things Jennifer | Almanac of the Mundane | The Alternative Hymnal | Amaravati: Abode of Amritas: | An American in China | Andrew Chen | Ang's Weird Ideas | Anonymoses | Anne Cunningham | Anticlown | Anti Pixel | AntiWar.Com Blog | Airborne Combat Engineer | Apothecary's Drawer | Argylez.com | Articulatory Loop | Ashy to Classy | As I Please | As Seen From Just Above Sunset | Astonished Head | Athens Olympics Blog | Athletics Nation | A Time for Choosing | Atlantic Blog | Average Bear | Babalublog | Back of the Envelope | Backup Brain | Back of the Envelope | Back to the Kitchen: | Backwards City: | The Bad Hair Blog | Banana Oil! | BaySense | The Belgravia Dispatch | The Bellman | Belmont Club | Below Street Level | Berkeley Square Blog | Betsy's Page | Between A Rock and a Hard Place | Big Gold Dog | Bill Coughlan | Binza | Bitchalicious | Black Flag | Blackfive | The Black Saint | Blaster's Blog | The Bleat | Blitzed | blogdaddy | bloggg | Blogging Poet | Blog of Death | Blondsense | The Blue Sloth | Board of Pomposity | Boker Tov, Boulder | Booker Rising | Boiler Yard | The Bottle Shop | Bound By Gravity | BradNelson.com | Brain-Terminal.com | Breathing Space | Brian Noggle | Brian Scott | Broad at Bat | Broken Quanta | Bronx Banter | Brothers Judd | Brenda Stardom | Bunker Mulligan | Business Blog Consulting | CabinGirl.com | Caerdroia | Captain's Quarters | Cafe Hayek | California Republic | The Capitalist Lion | Carlybish's Jeffersonair | Carpundit | Catholic Kerry Watch | Celibate in the City | Challies | The Cheese Stands Alone | Chris Curtis | Chris is Hardcore | Christian Conservative | Clarified | Classical Education | Cockeyed Absurdist | Code is Mandatory | Comments from the Left Field | The Commons | The Common Virtue | Confessions of an Indie Filmmaker | The Conservative Zone | Consistently Chili | Cortland Coleman.com | The Countertop-Chronicles | C-POL | The Crease | Cronaca| Crossfiah | The Crusty Curmudgeon | Curmudgeonly and Skeptical | cutest. baby. ever. | Cyborg Democracy | Cynical Nation

    See the Complete Collection of Underbloggers: A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    The key now is to do some surfing of some of these quality blogs. This project is useless unless we check out some of these bloggers and link up to them ourselves. Lets help some of these underbloggers to get the attention they deserve.

    All care has been given to getting above details correct, however due to large numbers of bloggers nominated I have not been able to quality control links yet and have relied on the code submitted by nominators. I'm doing my best to get it right but feel free to email me with corrections.

    Celebrating the Underblog - 2004

    1 July, 2004 11:16 PM

    Do you know of (or run) a quality blog that deserves a bit of extra attention? What blog/s do you read that you wish others knew about?

    Last July I ran a Celebrating the Underblogger series. The reason for this series was that whilst there are plenty of blog awards that identify the most popular bloggers, best designed blogs, best photobloggers etc. - unfortunately only a few select blogs tend to win these competitions whilst thousands of excellent blogs go unnoticed and uncelebrated. 'Celebrating the Underblogger' seeks to identify and promote these bloggers - the Underbloggers.

    Last year we uncovered over 100 Underbloggers - the response was quite overwhelming. I myself found some excellent blogs through the process - many of whom I continue to visit to this day.

    So we're going to do it all over again. Here is how you can participate:

    • Leave up to 5 blogs that you wish more people knew about in the comments section below. Please include the name and URL of each. (hyperlink them if you know how)

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    • Leave a short reason why you like the blog

    • You can leave a link to your own blog if you think it fits the category of 'underblog' - if you do please consider linking to at least one other blog also - lets share the blogging love!

    Over the next couple of weeks I will collate your nominations and put them on a central prominent page on this blog for the rest of us to view and visit. Hopefully we'll all find a new quality blog or two to visit and make some new blogging buddies.

    Update - Thank you to all who have linked up and nominated Underbloggers. The response has been fantastic so far (you can still nominate).

    Here are the Pages with those blogs that have been nominated as Underbloggers (collated by Alphabetical Order) - A - C | D - H | I - L | M - Q | R - T | U - Z

    Update 2 - thank you to all who have nominated. I'm now closing nominations as its been three weeks now. We have an amazing list of underbloggers in the above links and I encourage you to visit as many as possible. You can still leave your suggestions below but unfortunately I will not be updating any more to the lists above.

    US Presidential Election Winner

    1 July, 2004 11:48 AM

    Get all the latest News on a variety of topics at Breaking News Blog



    Who will win the US Presidential Election? Will George W Bush win another term as US President or will John Kerry win the right to be US President for the next term of office? What will the results be?

    The U.S. presidential election of 2004 is will occur on Election Day, Tuesday, November 2, 2004. After an election by the U.S. Electoral College on December 13, the winner will be inaugurated for a four-year term as President of the United States on January 20, 2005.

    The Winner of the US Presidential Election won't be known for some time yet so we've put together this helpful list of resources to examine the US Presidential Election and its impending results.

    - 2004 US Presidential Election Procedures - U.S. Election Procedures By Michael W. Traugott. 'In general, American voters have the opportunity to participate in more elections than the citizens of most other democracies. Some Americans may have five or six opportunities a year to vote, with each ballot filled with different choices for different offices at various levels of government....'

    - CNN US Election Coverage - US Presidential election news, polls, predictions etc.

    - John Kerry for President - the official site of John Kerry.

    - George W Bush for President - Official site for George W Bush

    - The Command Post - US Presidential Election Blog - a blog dedicated to following the US presidential news.

    - US Elections 2004 - With latest news from the US Election for President - Election Result Predictions, description of the US Presidential Election procedures etc.

    - How the President of the United States is Elected - a description of how the US President is elected. 'The basic process of selecting the President of the United States is spelled out in the U.S. Constitution, and it has been modified by the 12th, 22nd, and 23rd amendments. Many additional steps have been added over the years, by custom and by state law -- the process has changed quite a bit over time. Who Can Run? The President and Vice-President are elected every four years. They must be at least 35 years of age, they must be native-born citizens of the United States, and they must have been residents of the U.S. for at least 14 years. (Also, a person cannot be elected to a third term as President.)...'

    - The Green Papers: General Election 2004 - 2004 Presidential Election by State.

    - Who Should Win the 2004 U.S. Presidential Election? - written June 2003. 'Two years ago, we discovered the holy grail of Washington D. C., a formula to predict the electability of a presidential candidate before he or she is nominated (Schulman 2001). Now that it seems clear that George W. Bush will receive the Republican nomination, we have applied this formula to both him and to the nine currently-declared Democratic presidential candidates (plus three others who may decide to run). To review for those few readers who have not memorized the formula: Electability = 4P - V - S + R + 9G + 95DCI + 95GEN + 95NUC,...'

    - U.S. presidential election, 2004: Meaning (information, definition, explanation) - an explanation of the US presidential election.

    - Dave Leip's Atlas of US Presidential Elections - 'The Atlas is a free internet resource providing results of U.S. Presidential Elections to the world community. Data is collected from many official sources and presented here in one convenient location.'

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